Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi."
Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them.
@JuliusGoat @robchandhok Well said.
In Germany we also say that if at a dining table there are a Nazi and nine more people, then there are ten Nazis dining at that table.
@dogemocenigo
> if at a dining table there are a Nazi and nine more people, then there are ten Nazis dining at that table
This is fine, for a very specific definition of "nazi". Some people use "nazi" as a general slur against anyone with conservative views, and others as a general slur against anyone with views they perceive as too soft on authoritarianism, and your metaphor doesn't apply when the definition of "nazi" is so nebulous.
@edgeoforever
> the willingness to use power to exterminate people you dislike
I can agree with this, provided the definition of "exterminate" is literally, physical kill. Not question their identity or some other woolly definition.
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Pretty sure I addressed this here:
@[email protected] > if at a dining table there are a Nazi and nine more people, then there are ten Nazis dining at that table This is fine, for a very specific definition of "nazi". Some people use "nazi" as a general slur against anyone with conservative views, and others as a general slur against anyone with views they perceive as too soft on authoritarianism, and your metaphor doesn't apply when the definition of "nazi" is so nebulous. @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
..and career growth too.
Example: Von Braun.
@Kanchana Not so strange, really. Just because intention can form the basis for sound judgements doesn't mean that it can't also form the basis for unsound ones.
And deeper intentions than those we admit are revealed by our actions and alignments.
@davew
> Nothing neo about a Nazi
I assume it's a way of distinguishing between those who were members of the Nazi Party, and those who have nostalgia for it.
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Synonyms may include:
MAGAt
Conservative
Republican
Trumper
Ultraconservative
Paleoconservative
Bigot
Right-winger
Fascist
Neofascist
Authoritarian
Nationalist
Neonationalist
Reactionary
Redneck
Despot
Monarchist
Ignorant
Neophobe
Sycophant
Coward
Ethnocentrism
Social Darwinist
Regressive
Birther
Rightist
Hitlerite
Francoist
Republican Voter
I could go on and on.
I advice everyone to read and learn history.
It's the only way we've been able to determine and make discernments.
There's no excuse for neglecting history.
Knowing who's against whom, and who's for whom.
It's only been made examplary to us through history.
How do you know if what people say is the truth, how do you know if anything anyone says is right.
Learn history in any way available to you. Make use of your tools. It is everyone's duty. And not just 'them'.
Biden fought to keep segregation alive? Biden wasn’t even in the Senate until ‘72. Do you have a source for this claim?
Joe Biden, weighing a 2020 White House bid, once advocated continued school segregation in the United States, arguing that it benefited minorities and that integration would prevent black people from embracing “their own identity.”
Tons, it was his his whole platform when he started as an elected official. In hisnown words he was trying to prevent a "racial jungle" so hisnwhite kids woukdnt have to go to school with black kids.
Note i didnt read this article, i just know the quotes and seen the videos of him campaigning for pro segregation.
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks, taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists—things that would get anyone to his political right tossed out of polite society. But being on the left must make it okay. Just a few days ago, while lamenting the difficulty in convincing many Latinos and blacks to take the COVID vaccine, he committed a series of racially charged blunders that barely registered in the corporate media’s consciousness.
Ooo. OK forgot about this stuff. I also remembered the mandatory minimum sentencing for crack cocaine issue. That was pretty racist as well.
Most racist history of any president in my life time, even trump, and trump was pretty awful so thats quite a comparison.
The difference with Trump is that I don’t think he’s really come around to being any less racist than he was in the 70s. Even though Biden might not necessarily have publicly atoned for his attitudes, I’m pretty sure he’s evolved. Trump, not so much.
I thinknthats way off base.. he was consistently racist right until.itncost him votes. Even now its so transparent he is picking minorities simlly for the votes due tomthe fact that he will pick any minority, even one with bad records (like harris) just to get the minority vote. Yet he still keeps groping women and making low key racist comments...
Dude hasnt changed a bit and is clesrly just playing the game.
Talking about Bidens groping record without comparing it to trumps, is changing the subject isn’t it? I thought the contest was about who’s more racist.
That aside, Biden seems to get along pretty well with black leaders. If he is a racist, as you suggest, then why do you suppose black leaders are mostly repelled by Trump?
I tend to lump sexism against women as the same general category as racism. In both cases you are abusing a challenged class of people.
And sure, trump doesnt have a grest record in either of those situations either. But biden being racist and groping openly and with countless examples outweights trump who at least mostly has a record of accusations which doesnt give him a pass but its certainly harder to accertain the reality of his incidents.
As far as racism and sexism, that’s a whole other long conversation I don’t have the time or energy for.
And, you’ve changed the subject again. Regardless of whether you think Trump has any appearance of racism,  why is it DO YOU think, that black leaders are mostly repelled by Trump?

Because he is a republican, and most black leaders tend to lean democrat. So thry will largely play by party lines... plus as we pointed out he is racist, maybe not on bidens level, but racist. Those two combined will make a strong repulsive vibe for blacks and democrwts in general.
So this is where I say “right on, vote your conscience”🤙
Well thats a no brainer, thankfully we have lots of choices other thsn those two last election and next.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Really? You can't think of anything racist Trump did?
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Good find, I knew someone would fi d something more racist than what i mentioned, thanks.
Still doesnt seem to hold a candle to bidens history, but clearly some good examples.
@freemo @JuliusGoat In their time in the White House, the idea that Biden is more racist than Trump is absurd.
One metric: who did they actually put into positions of power? Biden put in a cabinet that looks like America. Trump chose almost entirely white men (who make up only around 35% of the US population).
I believe Biden chose career professionals while Trump chose cronies for their personal loyalty to him. Perhaps you disagree. I'm sure we could argue endlessly about which picks were "pandering to minority voters". The point is that Biden opened doors while Trump closed them.
You like to advocate for letting populations judge for themselves who is supporting them, and of course I agree. There's a reason 90% of Black voters chose Biden over Trump.
Whonsaid anything about "In their timr in the white house".. biden has a history that is far more racist than trunp... in the white house being racist didnt suit his agenda, second being racist cost him votes he instead switched tactics and used black people as pawns. He was racist but playing the "look im not racist look at all my black friends" game becsuse he benefited. Just because he started using black people didnt make him lest racist, just meant he was strategic and hid it.
Also keep in mind both people are family associates. Both Trump and Biden have had dinner and slept over my familys home.
@freemo @peterdrake @JuliusGoat
>> Both Trump and Biden have had dinner and slept over my familys home.
Do go on...
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They basically act like their friends so they can beg us all for money... so every once in a while they stop by and eat our food and try to convince us their decent humans sonwe will throw them a bone.
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