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Dan GillmorOpen AI wants us to believe its shift from nonprofit and open to for-profit and black box is just a natural progression, not a bait and switch of epic proportions. The company genuinely believes we are stupid and naive.
Itwasntme@dangillmor And on current evidence, the masses are.
Michael Gemar@dangillmor I think as well that techbros themselves are naive about what âethicsâ and âprinciplesââ really mean, that theyâre not just slogans to discard when inconvenient. Remember when Google claimed its guiding corporate motto was âDonât be evilâ?
Half Cocked Law@dangillmor I like how they argued it was partially a safety issue and then immediately admitted it wasn't.
Rui Seabra@dangillmor
It's Microsoft, it's always been a front company for Microsoft, and anyone thinking otherwise is widely mistaken.
It's Microsoft, it's always been a front company for Microsoft, and anyone thinking otherwise is widely mistaken.
Phillip Hallam-Baker@RuiSeabra @dangillmor It is much worse than that. It has Sacks, Thiel and Mercer all involved and they all do the work of the Kremlin.
Curt Olson@dangillmor I suspect they simply asked chatgpt how it could best monetize itself and are following it's suggestions?
Wendy M. Grossman@dangillmor Especially in the context of the arguments over copyright and training data.
@dangillmor I have seen pretty much every not-for-profit make the same shift either explicitly or covertly. ICANN was supposed to be non profit, they worked out how to charge a quarter million dollars to register a domain and they donât even pay to run the DNS root.
I see no reason not to expect Signal to do the same. The involvement with crypto-Ponzi coins showed malicious intent in my view and it is a walled garden. Only Signal can provide the service to Signal users.
Jeff Moss@hallam Can you expand on ICANN not âpaying to run the DNS rootâ?
Pete Wright@thedarktangent @hallam âItâs just a DNS server Michael, how much could it cost?â
@pete_wright @thedarktangent For the A.Root, going on for 8 figures. It is a non trivial piece of engineering.
@hallam @pete_wright Verisign has a $1 contract IIRC with IANA for A root. ICANN runs L root. Others are run by universities or USG, and have since before ICANN. Thatâs part of the problem. ICANN doesnât regulate the roots or have any control beyond trying to coordinate and talk with them.
ICANN even modified their bylaws to remove reference to being responsible - an acknowledgment of reality.
@thedarktangent @pete_wright Interesting, its a long time since I worked for VRSN.
VRSN still has the A and the J servers which is kinda weird since they are ANYCASTing and so they don't need two slots.
@hallam @pete_wright âAâ root sort of acts as the authoritative. There was a process when root zone updates occurred that IANA, NTIA and A would all approve them to make sure no mistakes before publishing. Iâm not sure if that exists anymore after ICANN gained its independence.
@thedarktangent @pete_wright oh I remember that being screwed up once.
Moot since they started signing the rootâŚ
@thedarktangent ICANN runs the registry but the DNS servers for the root, that is the A, B, C etc are run by separate organizations who have been doing it for years.
So VeriSign runs the A root and a bunch of other organizations run the others. When I was at VeriSign, nobody is paid to actually run the roots. Which is kinda odd when you think of the consequences of an outage.
We used to have two of the roots until we went to ANYCAST at which point we rapidly went to hundreds.
So the $250,000 fee just to look at a TLD registration strikes me as a 'yacht fund surcharge'.
Understanding where the costs actually lie, I have a scheme to provide callsigns for life at $0.10 each. They bind to a fingerprint of a public key and a set of service addresses. These would be for the Mesh Service Provider servicing the account which MAY return contact information if it is public and for a private DNS partition.
So if you register @thedarktangent for $0.10, that maps to your PGP key, your Mesh messaging and also to the DNS zone thedarktangent.m3-- where you can manage all your IoT stuff.
When you connect up your browser to your Mesh account, it can provision a service resolving the private m3-- TLD. So you can put a Web site up and give out URLs which will be permanent without paying any ICANN tax.
The original goal here was limited to allowing users to change their Mesh service providers at any time without cost, so their messages etc. would mover to the new location automatically. Then I realized with only slightly more engineering effort, I could make it self sustaining and solve the personal PKI naming problem.
I do have running code. My current focus is making E2E chat work for Mastodon and the Fediverse.