@dee @rakyah I'd disagree so long as we make a distinction between MacOS and Mac as in the product as a whole, with software, hardware, the walled garden etc. Their system alone is much more dependable, stable, secure and private than Windows - although the bar wasn't that high to begin with, given that a clean install of windows sends out telemetry directly to non-microsoft entities, and that Mac only has two care about stability on like a handful of computer models.