Question for @dannysullivan @searchliaison @johnmu - would the December Link Spam Update potentially impact a site's performance in Discover? And same question for the Helpful Content Update?

And would one update be *more likely* to impact Discover performance? πŸ™πŸ½

Thanks!

@LilyRay @dannysullivan @searchliaison I think we touch on this in the next office hours video -- it should be ready early March (things are a bit slower since the format is getting a visual revamp :-)). Patience?
@johnmu @dannysullivan @searchliaison I’ll ask my clients to be patient πŸ˜…πŸ˜… Jk. Thanks for this, super helpful!! Can’t wait for the video
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@johnmu @LilyRay @dannysullivan @searchliaison but when did this change? which HCU did this change with? The first one was Search only.
@rustybrick @LilyRay @dannysullivan @searchliaison This is just to clarify how these are handled, it's "many of the same signals and systems".
@johnmu @LilyRay @dannysullivan @searchliaison i get that but HCU specifically only impacted Google Search, I asked Danny and he said Search only originally, not Discover.
@rustybrick @johnmu @searchliaison @LilyRay This is way back at launch? If so, probably correct at launch but likely changed soon after. Will check on roughly when, but it's not a new change now. It's been using the system for some time, as I understand.
@rustybrick @johnmu @searchliaison @LilyRay OK -- Discover doesn't yet use it. But the signal is available for use for anything in Google Search (including Discover), which is what the help page says. We aren't likely to confirm when/if it actually used just as we won't for each search signal. But generally, if you want to be successful with Discover, which is part of Search, it makes sense to pay attention to the things that are helpful with Search.
@dannysullivan @johnmu @searchliaison @LilyRay I guess Lizzi needs to remove that from the helpful content system help doc (or maybe not...)
@dannysullivan @LilyRay @searchliaison @johnmu @rustybrick welp. this is confusing (οΌβ€Έαƒš)
@lizzi @dannysullivan @LilyRay @searchliaison @johnmu seems like this part should be removed?
@rustybrick @lizzi @LilyRay @searchliaison @johnmu Sorry for the confusion over this. Did more checking. We do indeed use it and have done so since last October. But it's a very light use. So we're leaving the page as is, but as I also said, we won't be confirming each search signal used by Discover. "If you want to be successful with Discover, which is part of Search, it makes sense to pay attention to the things that are helpful with Search."