Paul Haddad 
I think Bluesky is DOA. Took way too long for them to ship anything and now it's got the stink of Twitter 2.0 all over it (maybe not fair but 🤷‍♂️).
https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/28/23619270/decentralized-twitter-alternative-bluesky-ios-invite-only
Twitter’s decentralized alternative Bluesky arrives as an invite-only iOS app

Bluesky, the open-source social network that emerged within Twitter, is now available as an invite-only app on the Apple App Store, hinting at the possibility of a wider release coming soon.

The Verge
Feb 28, 2023 at 10:59pmWeb
Show threadPhilip Mallegol-HansenFeb 28, 2023
@paul It doesn’t help that the headline is implying this product belongs to Twitter, not someone who used to be at Twitter.
Show threadPhilip Mallegol-HansenFeb 28, 2023
@paul It’s at least my reading that they’re separate now, even if the idea originated inside Twitter.
Show threadZavFeb 28, 2023
@paul Too late to make a difference now sadly I agree...
Show threadZero101Feb 28, 2023
@paul 💯
Also, it’s ugly AF. And that icon? Hard to beleive that this is a product/service built by professionals
Show threadCorradoMar 1, 2023
@zero101 @paul Bluesky is a protocol. This is not an actual client, but just a test app
Show threadZero101Mar 1, 2023

@cverh Pretty sure AT is the protocol and Bluesky is the app that uses it https://atproto.com

Either way, it still looks like dogshit.

AT Protocol - AT Protocol

The AT Protocol is an open, decentralized, and high-performance network for building social applications.

AT Protocol
Show threadManton ReeceFeb 28, 2023
@paul I don't associate it with Twitter 2.0 since it was spun off well before Elon took over. I like how they are handling identity... Even with ActivityPub so established, there may still be room for another protocol.
Show threadPaul Haddad Feb 28, 2023
@manton in my mind, had crypto stink before, has Twitter stink now.
Show threadFuck Elon Feb 28, 2023

@paul @manton

Dorsey stink is not to be ignored either.

Show threadRoo_44Mar 1, 2023

@paul @manton

Interesting read:

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d

No, Elon and Jack are not “competitors.” They’re collaborating.

Wherein I attempt to clarify a number of ridiculous and false narratives currently taking hold about Musk and Dorsey’s “rivalry.”

Medium
Show threadManton ReeceMar 1, 2023
@roo_44 @paul That's interesting, thanks for the link. I think Jack Dorsey has already moved on from Bluesky to Nostr, which is totally wild west and maybe too far of a correction from the centralized nature of Twitter.
Show threadRoo_44Mar 1, 2023

@manton

That’s the game get it going, get it to ipo and get to the next one💰

Show threadMichael WymanFeb 28, 2023
@paul is that supposed to be pronounced like “blue sky”, or “blueski” like “brewski” as in beer? Because I can’t help but read it as the second…
Show threadTHE ABOMIN8TOR.EXEFeb 28, 2023

@paul

What goes around comes around

Show threadmike 😴Mar 1, 2023
@paul what is even the funding model for this? is the company for-profit and if so how will they ever make money?
Show threadekanaMar 1, 2023
@schneider @paul Advertisement. They aren't ad adverse like the fediverse. But they are set up as a Public Benefit Corp. so presumably, money isn't their priority. I can kinda believe it because this was originally Jack's pet project at twitter before he spun it off. He's technically not even CEO.
Show threadmike 😴Mar 1, 2023
@ekana @paul advertising in a federated environment sounds really difficult and also like it could not possibly make marketers happy. feeling like Paul’s right, DOA
Show threadekanaMar 1, 2023
@schneider @paul well I imagine they'll only be advertising on their client. So those who use the Bluesky app. From previews of the app, you seem to be able to pick ur instance the same as in Mastodons app.
Show threadMaxi 12x 💉Mar 1, 2023
@ekana @schneider @paul I wonder how they will ensure their ecosystem won't simply switch to alternative clients for the open protocol…
Show threadMaxi 12x 💉Mar 1, 2023
@ekana @schneider @paul I have a feeling, neither do they know. It's a bet.
Show threadmike 😴Mar 1, 2023
@frumble @ekana @paul it would be really silly to recreate the ridiculous scenario twitter ended up in where they had third party apps without ads competing with the first party app with ads. that didn’t end well, as i think we’re all aware! but i think this will flop before it even gets to that point
Show threadekanaMar 1, 2023
@schneider @frumble @paul well even in that situation most users just used the official app. So I guess they are okay with such a situation. I also imagine they hope other companies and users spool up instances to lower the hosting cost. And being a PBC they aren't beholden to making record profits, they just need to make enough to pay for the team and maintain the protocol and advance the network.
Show threadNate GorbyMar 1, 2023
@paul yeah it doesn’t look like anything great.
Show threadSimon HarperMar 1, 2023
@paul way too late. #mastodon for the win 🙌🏼
Show thread🛒 ᗰYᑕᗩᖇT 🛒Mar 1, 2023
@paul I’d look into it, but since it’s private can’t even look into it. No clue who might be involved, so agreed, might be too late
Show threadStephenMar 1, 2023
@paul It's not like Twitter was all that great even before Musk. Under Jack it was stagnant at best and developer hostile at worst. What reason is there to believe this time he'll do better?
Show threadBill VinsonMar 1, 2023
@paul would you really trust ANYTHING connected, even loosely, to Twitter or Dorsey at this point?
Show threadRon StewartMar 1, 2023
@paul actually, I think that’s completely fair. #StinkOfTwitter
Show threadPKMar 1, 2023
@paul terrible name for a microblogging platform.
Show threadDylan ShivakMar 1, 2023

@paul I may be in the minority but I don’t really care which social network “wins”, I just want one to get the traction needed for mass adoption.

I don’t feel like any of the current options have and I’m left following a few people here, a few people there and more people still on Twitter 🤷🏼‍♂️

Show threadPeter StuartMar 1, 2023
@paul I can’t imagine even sampling a network backed by Jack “Elon-Is-The-Only-One-Who-Can-Save-Twitter” Dorsey at this point. He’s got the perma-stink on him.
Show threadKarin SorenbyMar 1, 2023
@Meat_Bucket @paul perma stink 🫣😏
Show threadozamidasMar 1, 2023
@paul it was really funny when they created a discord server to openly discuss about the protocol and most people who joined were bored ape pfp users asking about crypto integration and how to make money out of this protocol.
Show threadMattMar 1, 2023
@paul there is no reason to trust anything Jack does anymore
Show threadAdamMar 1, 2023
@paul BlueSky is also a registered trademark of Microchip for their GNSS Firewall so they will need to navigate that.
Show threadEJ SchenckMar 1, 2023
@paul sooo… you guys won’t be making a client for this one then?
Show threadStarkMar 1, 2023
@paul how #opensource is it? I rather stick with opensource these days. Just love it too much!
Show threadCattyEllieLouMar 1, 2023
@paul Sadly, I agree. Last October would've been a different story.
Show threadschereMar 1, 2023
@paul
Show threadLucasMar 1, 2023

@paul
Bluesky -> not interested
AT Protocol -> vaguely intrigued

The little documentation I’ve read says they have technical reasons (that seem sound) for not adopting ActivityPub. I like post portability, lexicons for the data types on a server. Still, it’s largely a reimplementation of what we already have

Show threadStephen J. WeberMar 1, 2023
@paul sounds like a Mastodon wannabe skinned like the Twitter UI. Hard pass on that.
Show threadConor WadeMar 4, 2023
@paul also Nostr appears to have already taken off among decentralised people.
Show threadJason PerlowNov 16, 2024
@paul so Paul, are you going to implement ATProto in Ivory now or what? :)
Show threadJared White (ResistanceNet ✊)Nov 16, 2024
@jperlow @paul oh gawd I hope not.
Show threadJason PerlowNov 16, 2024
@jaredwhite @paul not all of us want to devote our time to a stagnating platform
Show threadJared White (ResistanceNet ✊)Nov 16, 2024
@jperlow @paul 👋