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The Man in Seat 61For those yet to see it: Europe's sleeper trains, mapped... https://back-on-track.eu/night-train-map/ (Paris-Italy, and into Spain - those yawning gaps in the network just scream 'fill me!' don't they...)
HoganSpain@seatsixtyone - would give anything for the old Paris - Madrid train hotel to start up again! Don’t suppose there is any news on that?
Vladimir Chicken@Hoganspain @seatsixtyone Me too ! Hopefully the promised Barcelona -> Brussels night service will be enough to allow travelling Galicia -> UK in under 30 hours...
Tim Richards@seatsixtyone France seems strangely detached too, doesn't it?
MagsLHalliday@seatsixtyone I didn’t realise the Paris-Barcelona sleeper had stopped! I loved that route.
Lord egeltje 🦔 🇪🇺 
@magslhalliday @seatsixtyone a sleeper Amsterdam - Barcelona is set to open in 2025. 🎉
Thierna@egeltje @magslhalliday @seatsixtyone I thought this would be sooner, also hoping for Berlin - Paris...
@thierna @magslhalliday @seatsixtyone Berlin - Brussels in May this year. Perhaps extending it to Paris maybe?
@thierna @egeltje @seatsixtyone I assume the old Paris-Berlin closed in the pandemic? Again, my last trip on it was pre-2010.
Astro3000@seatsixtyone The link to the file/picture doesn't work on my phone, could you make it available again or point to the source ? Thanks, I am really curious where to go next :)
@Astro3000 It works again now - went down just after posting!
Daniel Thomas@seatsixtyone Also Glasgow to Paris...
David Crooks 🏳️🌈
Michal 🇨🇿@seatsixtyone price is higher than use a car. And flexibility isn't even topic.
Szymon Bęczkowski@michal @seatsixtyone compare to car+hotel because these routes will take you a whole day to drive. And quality that driving day is shit. Headache is almost guaranteed.
For the comparison I'm using my last trip from Cologne to Paris.
Andy 🏳️🌈🇪🇺🇬🇧🏴@seatsixtyone last August I used your awesome website to plan a trip to Carcassone. I caught the Eurostar to Paris, I'd prebought my metro tickets on the very simple phone app, got myself to Austerlitz and jumped on the sleeper train. It was awesome. It wasn't the best night's sleep I'd ever had, but Tbh I arrived in Carcassonne much more relaxed that when I've travelled before by air.
Sleeper train is definitely something I'll do again.
Chris Kendall@seatsixtyone Transalpine in general looks very weak compared to where we were ten/fifteen years ago.
slideman@seatsixtyone
What do the different shades of each colour represent? Different yellows in France, different purples in Germany, different blues in Poland.
What do the different shades of each colour represent? Different yellows in France, different purples in Germany, different blues in Poland.
Thiago Carvalho@seatsixtyone Portugal is an embarrassment - unconnected to Europe (or even Iberia) by train, all the local politicians debate is building more airports.
Supportive Tree-based lifeform@seatsixtyone
wow spain really got thrown under a bus
wow spain really got thrown under a bus
@seatsixtyone
I still miss the 1460/1462 between Bukarest and Thessaloniki which is out of service since the beginning of #Covid
I still miss the 1460/1462 between Bukarest and Thessaloniki which is out of service since the beginning of #Covid
Tor Lillqvist@seatsixtyone Still, even with the mentioned gaps, this map shows how false the "common knowledge" is that says "there are no long-distance night trains any more in Europe, everything was better before, yada yada".
But yeah, I can imagine average people thinking "why would I want to go by night train to Romania, I want night trains from Stockholm to Paris and Alicante, that is what matters!!!" etc.
Marcos M. 🚲
Chris Jakobsen
Bodhipaksa@seatsixtyone @AeonMach Europe is better connected to Asia than France is to Spain.
xirah
Yimby Earth has moved!@seatsixtyone
Stockholm - Trondheim!
The train already goes like 95% of the way, I hope they extend it when the connecting railway is modernised.
Oslo - Germany, as well. All the routes from Stockholm ought to have a sister route from Oslo.
Stockholm - Trondheim!
The train already goes like 95% of the way, I hope they extend it when the connecting railway is modernised.
Oslo - Germany, as well. All the routes from Stockholm ought to have a sister route from Oslo.
rednikki@seatsixtyone Hooray, you're on Mastodon!
@seatsixtyone I took a night train from Germany to Barcelona. This was pre-Olympics, so they had to change the trucks because the gauge in Spain was narrower then than in the rest of Europe. Post-Olympics, Spain has the same gauge.
Cadence Larissa Beth Beresford@seatsixtyone The only sleeper train I've been on is London to Inverness.
I'm guessing most of the gaps have trains, just not sleeper ones.
ekesNight trains compete with freight trains so the rail network needs to be upgraded and expanded, which takes time, especially when you have to deal with opposition. Afaik current production of trains can't keep up either.
Usually that's why there are no new connections despite increase in demand.
Adam Trickett 
@seatsixtyone Better than nothing, but overall lots of gaps. France and Spain seem rather empty and disconnected.
keplerniko@seatsixtyone *Nothing* in the Baltics. That is dire.
@seatsixtyone What is the ‘longest’ sleeper train? Am curious about both distance and time (departure-arrival)!
Kristian Skjellum Aas@keplerniko @seatsixtyone Must be Milan-Palermo or Stockholm-Narvik, at least in Western Europe.
Adam Cook@seatsixtyone If we could get anything close to this in the US...
Well... I can dream anyways.
Oliver D. Reithmaier@seatsixtyone apparently you don't wanna mingle with renfe (spanish rail operator). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/21/spanish-transport-secretary-resigns-new-renfe-trains-too-big-for-tunnels
Joanna Czechowska@seatsixtyone No tickets available for sleeper train from Vienna to Paris. Is is a website problem, a timetable problem or what?
@JoCzechowska 1.It's successful, it gets booked up weeks ahead. 2. If you're looking in October, too early. 3. If you're looking at odd dates in July or June, might not be open for booking yet.
@seatsixtyone We are looking at mid May but it says they are not yet available. We check every day.
Thomas H Jones IIPassenger rail is generally most economically viable between main population centers. Feels like some of those yawning gaps are like asking "why doesn't the US have more rail lines through Wyoming", though?
@ferricoxide Paris to Italy is a MASSIVE market, as is Paris-Spain. They are indeed main population centres. It's not demand that's the issue, it's supply.
@seatsixtyone Paris to Madrid, sure. Paris to the entirety of Spain, not so much.
Phil@seatsixtyone
I think not so long ago there was a night train from near Bordeaux to Lisbon via Madrid. But it does not seem to exist any more.
I think not so long ago there was a night train from near Bordeaux to Lisbon via Madrid. But it does not seem to exist any more.
utzer [Friendica]@phil_s @seatsixtyone thanks for sharing this grafic and thanks for helping me discover @seatsixtyone, added that to my list for my travels, usually just traveling in DE and CH, but planning to use the train for vacation to IT as well.
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