Rightwing extremists advocating for the dissolution of the country is neither new nor surprising.

The fact that such extremists have risen to the center of conservative politics and continue to be elevated within the Republican Party, however, is indicative of an acute threat.

@tzimmer_history I would 100% be okay with this, though

@parkermolloy @tzimmer_history

Nope. The most energetic civil rights organizing comes from red states because the people there are on the front lines.

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@Spicewalla @tzimmer_history Also, you really don't get to tell me "nope" about what I would be okay with. I would move anywhere in the country if you told me that I would be able to live there free from efforts to criminalize my existence. In a heartbeat.
@Spicewalla @tzimmer_history "No, we need to keep the country together!!!" Literally why? I don't want to live in a country ruled by DeSantis and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Break it in two, give me the option to move to the one that's not insane, and let that be that.
@parkermolloy @Spicewalla @tzimmer_history Not so simple to just move to a blue state. For example: lots of Black folks live in Mississippi, Georgia, & other places where Republican governments & gerrymandering guarantee they are poorly represented, & shitty governance contributes to low property values so that selling in the red state does not yield enough money to buy in the blue state. Plus, leave generations of family, friends, jobs, & schools behind?
@mpiper I said that I was in favor of a wild hypothetical that involved magically splitting the country in two and letting people choose where to be. It's weird that people keep responding to act like I'm actively pushing for this to happen.
@parkermolloy in that case I empathize with the feeling behind the statement.
@parkermolloy but the statement ignores a lot of reality. Easier to kind of mock or dismiss my prior points than to deal with the facts I brought up that are often ignored when this issue comes up. No one should feel they have to move to another state or another country for safety, liberty, or fair treatment. This country is ours (democracy loving people who believe in equal rights for all) and we fight for it together for all of us. I won’t cede a single state to secessionists.

@mpiper and when DeSantis wins the presidency in 2024 and pushes to criminalize my existence, all the liberals will just go, "Shoulda voted harder!" and continue not giving a single fuck about whether or not people are actually hurt.

This is exactly what they did during the Trump years, and it's exactly what they'll do again.

@mpiper Trump banned trans people from the military. What did liberals do? Nothing. Posted about it on Twitter for a day and then did nothing. Trump kept doing things like that, and whenever I'd try to speak out, I'd get lectured by some "It's Mueller Time!" dope that it was a "distraction" and that I should "stay focused!"
@mpiper So, this isn't a question of whether you'd sacrifice a single state, but whether you'd sacrifice an entire country, because that's the reality: people do not give a shit about things that affect others.
@parkermolloy we are allies arguing with each other. We probably agree on nearly every issue. Probably everyone participating in this thread is similarly concerned and aware about the dangers facing this country and its people. For sure the world needs more empathy, but many people actually do give a shit. And a bunch of those people voted and ELECTED Biden, who overturned Trump’s ban and nearly every one of his executive orders.