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I still cannot get over how people equate extracting resources to build a thing which will let us do something for decades to come with extracting resources which we promptly set on fire so we can do something for a moment.
Feb 20, 2023 at 7:06pmWeb
Show threadTechnology ConnectionsFeb 20, 2023

Like, this seems so forking obvious. You don't even need to "believe" in climate change to realize how much stupider it is to keep the status quo up.

It's only seen as "easy" because it's familiar. Interrogate it just the teeny tiniest bit and maybe you'll find the absurdity.

Show threadSkyglobeFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify but the shareholders! Would somebody think of the shareholders??!!?!!
Show threadGeorge Hammerton Feb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify I do sometimes think we’re a bit generous letting people use the ‘believe’ line, it’s surely a case of, ‘I don’t *understand* climate change’? 🙃 #DumDumLikeBurnStuff lol
Show threadSpace HoboFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify
Imagine if our economy literally relied on burning actual solar panels to run engines and generate heat.
Show threadJiSeFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify Plus the possibility that we might be able to build a recycling system with the new thing, but recycling burned up stuff is quite a bit harder.
Show threadfluffy 💜Feb 20, 2023

@TechConnectify Your video on "but sometimes" should be required watching for anyone who has any say whatsoever in environmental policy or purchasing decisions that are based on it.

Also it'd sure be great if people would update their knowledge about the state of EV batteries and solar panels in general. They're SO MUCH better than they were a decade ago, but people keep on citing the stats for 10-year-old things (which were only SLIGHTLY better than the status quo).

Show threadLisPiFeb 20, 2023

@fluffy @TechConnectify Regarding outdated information, since you seem to be more up to date.

Is whatever neglect Tesla was doing that led to all those electrical fires finally something that was addressed and regulated out of the market?

Show threadfluffy 💜Feb 21, 2023
@lispi314 @TechConnectify I have no idea, but honestly, fuck Tesla
Show threadAstroJonnyFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify I still firmly believe future generations (if humans last that long) will shake their heads at us burning fossil fuels for energy. even without global warming (which is more bizarre)
Show threadDrumBrakesFeb 21, 2023
@joncarp @TechConnectify
Just like (most of) us look back at past generations who believed burning witches was a perfectly sensible thing to do.
Show threadAstroJonnyFeb 22, 2023

@drumbrakes @TechConnectify oh yea, there's lots of things we think were misguided in retrospect.

this is obvious in real time

Show threadAlphacheezFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify but burning hydrocarbons go */fwoom/*
Have you ever heard a solar panel make that noise? And wind mills only do a */whoosh/*
I won't have all those primordial algae, plants and such have died only for us not to burn them!
(Heavy sarcasm!)
Show threadalcinnzFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify But you're talking cars! There's no rationality to be found here!
Show threadTechnology ConnectionsFeb 20, 2023
@alcinnz ...I am?
Show threadalcinnzFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify Well, your comments do go beyond cars... But that's a big part of it!
Show threadTechnology ConnectionsFeb 20, 2023
@alcinnz these comments apply to literally anything we do which uses energy. I don't know why you assumed I'm talking about cars specifically
Show threadalcinnzFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify Fair enough. Maybe I just read one too many opinion pieces which annoy me?
Show threadPHolder  Feb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify I don't think anyone even mildly intelligent doesn't understand. They just PRETEND to not understand for political and/or economic reasons (because, most likely, their income depends on pretending like they don't understand.) A lot of short term thinking derives from financial motivations driven by stock holders who pretend they do care about life on earth when in reality all they care about is funds in bank.
Show threadTetracaFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify On one hand, you're totally right and it's completely unsustainable. On the other hand, trying to invest in anything else is expensive and looks bad on next quarter's results.
Show threadWeird 2 - Electric BoogalooFeb 21, 2023

@TechConnectify That requires people to actually think about it.
But they'd rather keep their eyes shut, than to watch and learn. If you can't see the problem, the problem can't see you, either.

Peak magical thinking.

Show threadBy-and-ByFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify conversations like these always make me reevaluate our radical strategies of political education
Show threadDr JamiebearFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify Ah, the seemingly impossible-to-define difference between 'capital expenditure' and 'investment', that tax systems and corporations seeking tax breaks seem to get easily, but governments and the commentariat are simply baffled by.
Show threadRoger MooreFeb 20, 2023
@thisisrjg @TechConnectify
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." --Upton Sinclair
Show threadJason Petersen (he)Feb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify also fun how EVs need steel and whatnot to build but apparently ICE vehicles are delivered by a fairy (they know the argument is trash, its soundness is beside the point to them)
Show threadMattFeb 20, 2023

@TechConnectify It's an incredibly selfish attitude. Future generations need the remaining petroleum to make plastic things for themselves, too. Like until the end of time.

Plastic stuff is okay so long as we make things repairable, reusable, and at least recyclable.

Show threadGasper ZejnFeb 20, 2023

@TechConnectify Sorry to hear that the universe of loudly wrong people is bogging your mind.

There are lots of us that know better. :D

Show threadMark DennehyFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify *looks pointedly at nuclear power*
Show threadCykonotFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify
Energy
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Show threadJersey GryphonFeb 20, 2023
@TechConnectify It’s like people’s reaction to the idea of having overhead power on highways allowing trucks to have small batteries but unlimited range.
Show threadNick BaxFeb 21, 2023

@jerseygryphon @TechConnectify I mean why not build an electrified train then?

At least in the US we’ve so underinvested in trains that we always want roads to be better.

Rubber tires on roads are significantly less efficient that steel wheels on steel rails.

Show threadNick BaxFeb 21, 2023

@jerseygryphon @TechConnectify that being said, I’ll also defer to myself and not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

But I’d want this to be a private investment, or at least something that the public sector would run at a profit.

Show threadJersey GryphonFeb 21, 2023
@nbax @TechConnectify They are less efficient, but then you can have deliveries to addresses not connected to the rail network.
Warehouse to warehouse deliveries (like for Amazon) should really be by rail.
Show threadbassplayerFeb 21, 2023

@TechConnectify I thought I read from the macro folks some countries did the right thing as far as starving resource extraction industries in favor of renewables but since they made up the difference with the Russian pipeline they had to scramble and build dirty plants when Russia started squeezing.

Also aren't solar panels and turbine props the worst thing to recycle. Has there been any improvements on that front

Show threadSteve Hill 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺Feb 21, 2023
@bassplayer @TechConnectify isn't the worst thing to recycle the fossil fuels you burnt to avoid having to recycle wind turbines and solar panels?
Show threadbassplayerFeb 22, 2023

@steve @TechConnectify

In no way did I say don't use solar. Just pointing out that there is nuance regarding solar because a bunch of panels are nearing their EOL and need to be replaced and It's difficult to recycle them. Hopefully some of those startups can help and they don't all end up in landfills

https://youtu.be/3JqzSsStwF4

The Truth About Solar Panels

YouTube
Show threadjthjFeb 21, 2023
@TechConnectify we’re also burying it in the ground after we use it once because…. lazy I guess. I bet a future generation will be shaking their heads as the mine landfills for all the shit we should have recycled.