1.3.6.1.4.1.61513saiglobal can go fuck itself
Australian standards should be public domain
0xThylacine@xssfox Totally. The number of times I've used old copies of standards *during gov IT security reviews* bc they wouldn't pay for it, is not funny.
D Ingram@xssfox Esp when the people that write the standards don't get paid for their work. Bit like academic publishing.
At least NZ makes a lot of NZS available for free (building related ones).
If the law requires a standard to be followed then govt should fund development & maintenance. Gets messy though when AS is an adoption of IEC or ISO.
Stephen Collins@xssfox all standards, tbh. If you want to be assessed against a standard, I think paying for that service is fine, but gaining access to the guidance and requirements, i.e. the standards themselves, should be free and simple.
Problem is, they're not publicly owned.
Problem is, they're not publicly owned.
lizzzzard@trib @xssfox yeah, in Europe, they're explicitly privately copyrighted material, to be sold at whatever price the private companies creating them see fit.
Said companies usually have a monopoly on the market in their respective country, which, you know, doesn't exactly lead to good customer service and competitive pricing.
Colin@xssfox How dare you suggest Australia has standards
James Henstridge@xssfox Especially when the standards get incorporated by reference into laws or regulations you're required to follow.
ijk64✅@xssfox Hear! Hear!
Konomi Kitten@xssfox this country has standards? 
@xssfox so should the European / international ones (ISO).
StephenC@xssfox I thought they were.
Vel@xssfox do you know the fun part? Library licences only allow a literal handful of users to look at them at the same time. So either reference them at 0200 or deal with a furcon style online queue.