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[GRS] Kate Shrikeits very funny to post 'mastodon isnt viable because your admin can just have a meltdown' on elon musk's meltdown website
Ethan 🌒@kate i saw that same take! pretending like twitter isn’t a “libertarian social network” is so fucking funny
Mx. Alba 
@kate at least when a Mastodon admin has a meltdown, you get three months to move your account to another instance... As with dot-lol that's unfortunately shutting down...
Cifer@Teskariel @kate except there's no way to move to another Birdsite instance and retain your follows and followers...
PorkrollPosadist@kate None of the clout kulaks hesitated to hit that retweet button either.
Andreas@kate the great thing about the fediverse is, that it not just decentralizes but also democratizes social media.
Here everybody can have a meltdown and fuck with their instance.
Without having to spend 44B first. Long live the fediverse.
Carlos Solís@kate
Counterpoint: for a few bucks a month you can actually become your own admin
Counterpoint: for a few bucks a month you can actually become your own admin
AlisonW ♿🏳️🌈♾️@kate
One instance + admin does not a fediverse make though, which is the important thing.
One instance + admin does not a fediverse make though, which is the important thing.
Kelson
Ellie@kate I could have a meltdown but there's virtually identical alternatives out there with access to the same people and community, and users can port everything worth caring about over! On other platforms, if the owner has a meltdown you're just SOL.
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦@kate oh so it's not myself thinking that elno's just implementing regular admin rage on web scale 🙂
Dan@kate nevermind you can be your own mastodon admin... You can meltdown all you want and shut the service down or bring it back up. Be your own Elon Musk today and save a few billion dollars!
Aaron Innes@kate Yeah, it is kind of ironic. I do run my own instance so I guess I could go crazy if I wanted to. But then nobody would use it, so why would I do that?
jersey@kate an admin having a meltdown made me join this site like thats funny and i wanna see more of that. old internet vibes
FEATURED SINGER@kate every time i see a thread of someone going "heres why mastodon is nonviable/unsafe!!!" i just think thank fucking god. you and everyone agreeing with you seem so annoying. stay away
Chaoddity@kate Yup. and unlike twitter you can just... move your shit to another instance so it doesnt even matter.
TobiWanKenobi@kate Elon simply got some diehard-fans who believe he's some sort of god-like DIY-guy who clawed his way up through his genius brain. And as with every religion, be it Capitalism or Muskism, you just need to believe.
Such people tend to also believe in secret codes by supposed mysterious undercover agents investigating the deep state and the lizard people under the surface.
And since there seems to exist a self-amplifying feedback loop between cultists and cult leader, Elon is getting more whacko by the day, too.
Such people tend to also believe in secret codes by supposed mysterious undercover agents investigating the deep state and the lizard people under the surface.
And since there seems to exist a self-amplifying feedback loop between cultists and cult leader, Elon is getting more whacko by the day, too.
Philip Mallegol-Hansen@kate @molly0xfff That’s exactly why it’s viable. If your Admin has a meltdown, you can just find another (or become your own) admin.
If it was an option to just tell Elon to fuck off, maybe Twitter would still be viable.
Cringe 🔅@kate akkoma admins are perfect angels who cannot have meltdowns though 😇
Andrew Miller@kate LMAO the irony
Alex Oberhauser@kate The sweet irony 😁
LinaB@kate 🤣🤣🤣
I sent my admin some money. Mastodon.au works flawlessly
I sent my admin some money. Mastodon.au works flawlessly
TechyDad@kate But how can a social media site survive if it isn't run by a billionaire that temper tantrum fires engineers when his messages aren't read by enough people?
Oh wait. It'll survive just fine.
Lumi Kløvstad@kate Mine was the admin who DID have a meltdown.
12 hours later, I was already migrated to a new instance with a friendly community, better post length, and had kept every account I was following.
Far from being "not viable", this fucking feels like the FUTURE man.
Like, imagine being able to jump from Elon's Twitter to a Smaller Better Twitter with features you've been requesting from Elon's Twitter since you'd joined it. You don't need to go refollow anyone, because you're still following them, and anyone following YOU just had to click a single button to keep that going. And nothing Elon did on Elon's Twitter affected your newfound Smaller Better Twitter.
That's what Mastodon just enabled me to do.
All hail the Fediverse!
Jens LjungkvistI agree!
I had the same experience when I moved from my first instance to my own. (https://toots.nu)
The only thing missing is bringing all the toots with you.
Pär Björklund@kate haha 🤣
And it's not like something is stopping a mastodon server run by a group with a bunch of legalese to pretend that means something
And it's not like something is stopping a mastodon server run by a group with a bunch of legalese to pretend that means something
Humbird0 Fandom@kate
It's all about redundancy. Nobody has to rely on just one.
It's all about redundancy. Nobody has to rely on just one.
John Harris@kate I know, it's like, if on Mastodon your mod melts down, there is a supported procedure to take all your follows, and all your followers, to another instance. On Twitter, doing that is an imperfect process means using third-party tools that Musk is trying to stamp out.
jello ツ@kate The first time I’ve seen it, I found that take rather puzzling.
Have they experienced forums/bulletin boards ca. 2004? When one forum imploded over something, we didn’t write off forums as a platform, did we.
Have they experienced forums/bulletin boards ca. 2004? When one forum imploded over something, we didn’t write off forums as a platform, did we.
ekesLetting ourselves become prisoner to the network effect has always been a ridiculously high price to pay.
We've always built transparent utilities, like land lines, mobile networks, SMS, e-mail, VoIP; but for social media we rushed after chargeless services as the collateral damage to our privacy, and thus society, seemed too abstract to grasp.
Anyway, migration on the fediverse will only become easier as that's a vital feature so staying here lowers your potential risks and costs.
Fiona Bianchi@kate just a quick clarification since people are commenting on the .lol instance: “meltdown” is a slightly unfair description here (I accept you’re quoting that comment)
An admin got abuse and chose to protect their own mental health and well being.
That is a good call.
The problem isn’t the admin it’s how social media/electronic comms can result in misunderstanding and “internet rage” etc.
Mondo Sateract 
@kate I remember seeing that post and finding it a bit odd, because as one of the people affected by the .lol situation, I just moved my account to another instance and... that was honestly it. Problem solved within like a couple minutes, so in my eyes this is a massive W for how the fediverse works as opposed to being "why Mastodon isn't viable".
Urban Hermit@kate the thing is, instances keep having meltdowns because it is a systemic thing the structure is prone too. I have seen 3 in 3 months. It is hard to build a following and connect with people. There are other ways I may be losing contact, like entire other servers being blocked by my Admin because the Admins disagree on the extent to which people can be controlled. Decentralization has drawbacks as well as pluses and thinking out loud about how they might improve may be useful.
@kate just to be clear, egomaniacs making bad decisions and causing drama is always bad, more so the more influence they have. But as nice as the user community of Mastodon is, we are finding that some of us traded one big megalomaniac for dozens of small ones. If the system drives Mastodon volunteers nutty overtime, it would be nice to stop that, not console ourselves in the fact that we can always run away.