Rick MonroFeb 4, 2023

Discovered during the week I was unable to access a Kindle book purchased in 2013. Reason? The order was “too old”, and refund issued to buy again. Which was pointless as the book is now more expensive than when I bought it.

Subsequently discovered 66(!!) other ebooks no longer available for download.

Currently 40 minutes in to a support chat with Amazon.

About to learn, I think, whether we purchase ebooks, or rent them…

[Edit: documenting progress in this thread https://mastodon.online/@monro/109812445178130161]

Rick Monro (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image The problem first appeared last week, when I attempted to open a book on my Kindle. The book cover appeared in my Library as normal. When I tapped on it, the following message appeared:

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Show threadPaul McBrideFeb 4, 2023
@monro oh no. I do not like the sound of that!
Show threadRick MonroFeb 4, 2023
@ThePaulMcBride Not the most satisfying of outcomes, but at least I kinda have the books I want again (or will have 🤪)
Show threadPaul McBrideFeb 4, 2023
@monro sounds like a nightmare. I have a kindle purely because it is the best e-reader hardware. I wish I could have my own copy of the books in epub format though.
Show threadRandi EEAFeb 4, 2023
@ThePaulMcBride @monro This is why i backup all my e-books using Calibre....
Show threadChelle (she/her) 🐸☕Feb 5, 2023

@Reea @ThePaulMcBride @monro Yup I do the same.

If I buy something, I want to OWN it, not rent it at the whims of some corporation. DRM be damned.

Show threadTor LillqvistFeb 5, 2023
@WestCoastChelle @monro @Reea @ThePaulMcBride So you mean one doesn’t need to obey the terms of the license for immaterial works one gets? Does that hold for companies using FLOSS software, too, should they also be allowed to choose not to bother with what the license requires if they don’t like the terms? Interesting. #DRM #FLOSS
Show threadRui MalheiroFeb 5, 2023

@tml please don't equate DRM to FLOSS. The obvious difference is in the name. Free and libre. DRM gives power to the corporate holder, FLOSS gives power to the end user.

That is why Amazon victims are now having to repurchase what they thought they already have.
What you're saying is that people need to abide by rules without challenging their moral value and that just plays into the hands of the psychopaths that couldn't care less about your moral values.

@WestCoastChelle @monro @Reea @ThePaulMcBride

Show threadTor LillqvistFeb 5, 2023
@chromatic @WestCoastChelle @monro @Reea @ThePaulMcBride If you don’t like Amazon’s terms and conditions for their immaterial servicew, don’t purchase such from them? Buy physical books whose contents licensing is well understood since a long time.
Show threadPJ "Vote Green" Coffey

@tml @chromatic @WestCoastChelle @monro @Reea @ThePaulMcBride

OK bootlicker.

"Laws are inherently just and corporations are people and there's no power imbalance at all. If you don't like how things are that’s your own fault." What are you on?

A company selling ebooks "just as good as books" has implicitly contracted that they will supply said ebooks on the same sort of basis.

Bait and switch here.

Feb 5, 2023 at 12:36pmWeb