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daniel s.Jan 31, 2023

you can't reform this

Ray Gulick, he/him/wtf 🇺🇦 ❌👑Jan 31, 2023

@selfagency
LEO are trained to fear for their safety and react with deadly force, particularly if the detainee is a black male.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can 'untrain' fear that's been drilled into LEO via training and culture.

#KillerPolice

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Nina Wilson Jan 31, 2023

@rgulick @selfagency You can re-train them out of this but it is a bit like getting someone off drugs then putting them back with their mates that are still using. You have to re-train the whole force and you have to convince seasoned cops that de-escalation can work in many cases (it will never work with all of them). You have to do this in parallel with getting rid of the ACAB attitude in the public (or certain sectors of the public).

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Ray Gulick, he/him/wtf 🇺🇦 ❌👑Jan 31, 2023

@NinaWilson @selfagency
That doesn't sound like retraining has a realistic shot at succeeding.

Honestly, I think armed cops should not be making traffic stops (unless they're in pursuit of robbery or murder suspects, perhaps), and they should not be detaining people who are not actively engaged in criminal conduct.

I think we need to make traffic violations, vagrancy, and other low-level issues the responsibility of an unarmed force (similar to UK).

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@rgulick @NinaWilson @selfagency
I don't disagree, but I'm not sure this would work in the US with the plague of guns everywhere.

As much as I agree that heavily armed military cops are a murder waiting to happen in every traffic stop, I don't want to see officers become sitting ducks.