PhoenixSerenity

#Nature is #reclaiming old industrial #remains from #logging camp - #ShirleyBC - between #Tsouke / #Sooke & #Pacheedaht / #PortRenfrew . #Rusty #metal #rope on #TreesKnees .
If you bushwhack through overgrown areas, you'll find ruins from old Muir farm homestead & logging workers' camps. Hard to access those areas now that Mosiac put gates up almost everywhere ☹

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Jan 26, 2023 at 7:35pmWeb
Show threadSinclairLewis [Minnesota]Jan 26, 2023
@msquebanh Mosaic? The fertilizer company? Curious for personal reasons.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@SinclairLewis forestry (mis)management corporation:
https://www.mosaicforests.com/
Mosaic Forest Management

Mosaic Forest Management
Show threadSinclairLewis [Minnesota]Jan 26, 2023
@msquebanh Thank you for the information. Not much difference between a “forestry” company and a “fertilizer” company.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@SinclairLewis Not these days. Especially in BC where our #NewDeathParty #BCNDP government appreciate #glysophate spraying to increase timber sales while killing off tons of native trees, plants & basically decimating more biodiverse ecosystems. The toxic spraying affects insects/invertebrates/mycelium life too. More toxic spraying = less bees as well. #StopTheSpray #BritishColumbia #Canada
Show threadskyislandJan 26, 2023
@msquebanh I been finding those cables on my scrap of forest. do you know when they were in use? I know the land here was logged bald in the 1920s and again in the 1990s (without paying a scrap of attention to forestry guidelines) #foreststeward #forestry #oldgrowth
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@skyisland These ones are from 1930s-1950s.
Show threadskyislandJan 26, 2023
@msquebanh interesting. I’m guessing the ones I found are from the 20s bc that’s when they took all the #oldgrowth. I think I might have to go to the historical society to find out more.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@skyisland Good idea. I was able to backdate these because I hunted down info via #BCArchives & also talked to some elderly locals who had family members who used to work for the Muir family almost a century ago.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@skyisland It was sad for me to bushwhack through some of this area. I found tree trunks with diameters of over 6-8 feet & tried to imagine what those trees would look like, how the forest would look like - had they not all been clearcut. I love old growth forests & have spent over half my life in BC, Canada, trying to protect them. It is very heartbreaking for me to experience seeing what's left now.
Show threadskyislandJan 26, 2023
@msquebanh I agree. we’re finding huge stumps and buried trees everywhere. it’s really sad and I hope we can revive our lil scrap 💜
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 26, 2023
@skyisland I see you're in Oregon. I really hope the #forestdefenders there can help save more old growth from being cut down.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 26, 2023
@msquebanh @skyisland This reminds me of a couple of great books I read last year. For Vancouver Island specifically, Big Lonely Doug by Harley Rustad by The Walrus Books. For a labor focused look at logging in the PNW, Empire of Timber by Erik Loomis by Cambridge University Press. Loomis is one of my go to labor sources, but Rustad was new to me and I found him to be very readable. Was a happy accident that I read them back to back and they really reenforced each other.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @skyisland I want to dispel popular myth that due to a logger's compassion, Big Lonely Doug was saved. Truth is - it was saved for only for seed & also from increased public pressure because we were fighting to save Avatar Grove at around same time this cutblock was being targeted to be clearcut.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @skyisland The book makes the point that the tree was only saved under the provision that it would be good for reseeding and also covered a lot of the protests that were going on in the area at the time (which I'd not heard about). I think it did play up the hero aspect a bit, but it didn't gloss over _why_ the tree was saved.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @skyisland The book romanticized it & that's what I had issues with. It would be hard for them to deny it was saved for seed because of what was actually documented by both activists & their own industry.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @skyisland Ah, didn't realize you'd read it! It really informed me about the history of the protests in the area and made a good case for pivoting from extraction to preservation. The romanticization was probably part of what made it a breezy read. Empire of Timber was a more scholarly read.
Show threadskyislandJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @msquebanh thx for the book recommendation. I’ve been learning from local sources (particularly Indigenous sources) bc of how logging barons are depicted as heroic pioneers on Oregon history sites. #oldgrowth
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @msquebanh You're welcome (and sorry I mangled your tag in one of my replies). Loomis is from OR so he focuses a lot on that area in his book.
Show threadskyislandJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @msquebanh Loomis seems right up my alley, too. deromanticizing logging barons really highlights how racist and generally sociopathic they were/are.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @msquebanh you might want to check out Loomis' This day in Labor History series at the Lawyers Guns and Money blog. Well over 200 entries that have taught me a lot
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @BrentInMasto Really irks me when those kind of ecocidal maniacs try to tell me that they're complicit & PROUD of killing ecosystems - for their kids' futures. Gawd. Their kids are totally screwed if that's how their parents think.
Show threadskyislandJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @BrentInMasto not as screwed as the kids of Indigenous folks who were displaced and/or murdered for their land. the children of land barons are foregone tools of oppression and destruction.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @msquebanh And yet most of the atrocities are carried out by those screaming "Think about the children". So much projection 🤦
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @BrentInMasto It's not even on same comparison scales.
I more meant that these ecocidal parents are screwing their own kid's minds & wrecking their futures at the same time. Every human needs clean air, clean water & healthy ecosystems to survive.
Show threadskyislandJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @BrentInMasto humans have extremely short memories, and extremely short foresight.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @msquebanh I'm sorry, saw a squirrel and forgot what we were discussing :P
Someone once said something about remembering history or being doomed to repeat it, ya?
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@skyisland @msquebanh The often obvious cycles of history somewhat comfort me but my big fear is that our broken climate is going to destroy whatever balance there is in the system and knock us out of the pendulum of history and into a new dark age
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @skyisland I read it & also read a few books from full out industry fetishers. I like hearing from both sides. I obviously lean towards one over the other & honest about it. I'm fiercely passionate about protecting ecosystems here, because I wasn't able to protect my own family's homelands from full out ecocide & have lost family to corporate mercenaries murdering them. I don't want same fates for lands, waters, wildlife & human communities here. My ppls died fighting to protect.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @skyisland Industry has NEVER given us any tracts of protection without some big fights & public black eyes exposed on industry violating multiple environmental laws, first. The only loggers I trust now are retired ones who've woken up & feeling bad about their contributions to ecocide & those who already shifted to sustainable selective nature first methods. All others, I won't trust because they're still mass sellouts & liars.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @skyisland Yeah, saving trees isn't in the extraction industry's interest (short term thinkers that they are) so I'd not take anything they say at face value.
I think the forester that marked Lonely Doug for saving was nearing retirement, now that you mention it :)
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto @skyisland I take nothing industry says at face value. I was one of the first ppl to call out UBC decades back for polluting their forestry education course with industry ppl & using industry $ to fund it. Only in past 2 yrs have ANY UBC Forestry staff admitted that BC Government & industry are wrong & lying to public. Despite that happening for over 2.5 decades. I don't speak about anything I'm uninformed about. I'm very informed on OG issues in BC. One of my main causes.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh @[email protected] secretly Canadian, so l have been very disappointed to learn how much of Canada's economy depends on raping the land, how little protection the government provides, and how very unenforced those few protections are.
Show threadPhoenixSerenityJan 27, 2023
@BrentInMasto It's why people like me refuse to stop fighting to protect ecosystems in BC. Protection won't happen without big fights.
Show threadBrent, in a jarJan 27, 2023
@msquebanh Thank you!