So the CEO of online ads giant IAB made a pretty… remarkable speech, saying:
"These extremists (referring to privacy advocates) are political opportunists who’ve made it their mission to cripple the advertising industry and eliminate it from the American economy and culture."
And this, friends, is our mission statement RIGHT THERE.
Of course our ambition shouldn’t be limited to the US.
Burning the online advertising industry to the ground needs to be a global undertaking.
@slothrop ahem, "burning the advertising industry to the ground..."
Advertising doesn't suddenly become evil because it's online.
@markhughes It's not evil because it's online, it's evil because it's advertising.
@markhughes @slothrop when ads are just printed it can be read, thought about and either used or dismissed. When it's online it isn't just there, it is spyware and that is without doubt *always* evil. No exception.
Yes: Needs to burn, including their associates.
@slothrop It really was a remarkable speech! Like they say, tirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they make ridiculously over-the-top-speeches at industry confabs, and then you win.
The only place I've found it so far is LinkedIn (bletch) ... do you know if it's anywere else?
@nemobis "Bots hadn’t been invented yet" in 1994? GEEZE THE IGNORANCE OF THIS ASSHOLE.
ELIZA was invented in 1966.
RFC 439: PARRY encounters the DOCTOR was 1973.
So-called "bots" have been online longer than HTTP.
The advertising industry is a leech.
Bill Hicks was too kind IMHO, people were still laughing at him. @jdp23
@nemobis @byterhymer TBH, I've been doing ad fraud mitigation for about a decade, and on the high end, the threat actors seem about on par with state-sponsored attackers.
They do some wild stuff.
(hope the necroposting isn't to annoying, and hey everyone install ublock origin!)
@ryanc I can easily believe it! As the "ad contrarian" says, with such amounts of money involved, it's fully expected.
(Not annoying at all, glad to hear from people in the field and that "older" posts are still discoverable.)
@nemobis I'm a little irritated that the linked post says "no possibility of consequences", when the bust I helped with put five people in jail, and several more are still wanted by Interpol but Russia won't extradite.
I suppose it's true if one doesn't mind living in Russia and never leaving.
Sounds pretty banger, yeah...
@slothrop
I am used to the standards that were set for British TV advertising, limits to the total time per hour, and adverts in clear blocks distinct from the program.
I can imagine that guy screaming about having to follow any rules, even before honesty becomes a question. Why does anyone trust a sociopathic liar?
@slothrop
Privacy is killing the advertising industry
We left this page blank so you can help.
(...well, it won't kill it, but it sure as hell should cut down some of its worst excesses.)
@slothrop ermahgerd, amazeballs. 
Got a link?
@rysiek Someone put up the text on Google Docs:
Apparently, Apple also is an anti-advertising extremist. That´s a bit of a pity. I feel much less avant-garde now.
@slothrop dear lord.
> Takeaway 1: Extremists are winning the battle for hearts and minds in Washington D.C. and beyond. We cannot let that happen.
> So let’s take each of these one by one. We can start with The Political extremists focused on making “Big Tech'' their sworn enemy.
Wow. Just wow.
@mcc @slothrop Apple makes $4 billion in advertising per year, with plans to expand that to $10 billion per year
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/08/21/ads-coming-to-apple-maps-report/
> And all they ask in return is our data.
And they won’t take “no” for an answer…
@slothrop @rysiek This bit made me eye roll so hard:
“It’s never buyer vs. seller, us vs. them - it’s all of us working together. To grow the digital economy.”
Which I interpret to mean:
“It’s never ad buyer vs. ad seller, us vs. them - it’s all of us working together against the common enemy, the consumers. To grow the digital economy at their expense.”
Almost 30 years ago, an AT&T ad on HotWired.com — the first internet ad in history — had a 44% click-through rate. Not 4.4%, or point-four-four percent. Nearly HALF the human beings who saw the ad clicked on it. Bots hadn’t been invented yet, and fraud barely existed. There was one acronym for video — TV — instead of today’s alphabet soup. Regulations were few, and compliance was easy.
Ah yes, SURELY today’s low click-through rate is due to regulations, definitely not due to ads being shoved down our throats at every corner of the modern web
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