Early 2000s profitable startups gave their handful of workers novel perks/freedom. These cos/their workplace culture got big. Late 2010s tech labor gained power + made demands. Now a hint of recession = excuse to break promises/reestablish dominance over workers. It's not about $

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Yep. The rolling layoffs at tech cos with obscene profits is purely a shakedown of staff.

Musk showed how badly you could treat tech workers - and they're all racing to do the same. I expect massive offshoring soon.

@Mer__edith So don’t their HR processes result in 5-10% of “low performers” being laid off every year anyway. I would expect this is more performative than real redundancies reducing the size of the companies. For the big guys anyway.
@davebyrne No. My slightly dated understanding is that only Amazon has this policy and even there it's been unevenly applied.
@davebyrne @Mer__edith not all thebig companies do stacked ranking no. And even at ones that do I’m not sure this is the layoff percentage from that

@davebyrne @Mer__edith no. This was implemented by a few very visible, unusually high paying, companies (including Microsoft and parts of Amazon), and small copycats who had no business being copycats.

Afaik, all have, at least, softened the approach, because it's obviously detrimental to retention and culture. Most have eliminated the practice, entirely.

@Mer__edith DHHs hate filled blog post about taking power from "entitled" tech workers was clearly putting out what a lot of the c-suite class in tech were talking between each other.
@Mer__edith
They overhired during covid..
@Mer__edith the tell is that revenue isn't dropping meaningfully and layoffs aren't even rolling back orgs to the size they were a year ago and yet it's "RIP good times" from the rooftops
@Mer__edith No opinion on the correctness of this, but to be honest those “my day working at LinkedIn” tiktoks were getting pretty ridiculous
@dinislam influencer posts are not, you know, real life.
@Mer__edith does the managerial class know this?

This article has a different take though. Your thoughts? In a nutshell:

  • The layoffs are part of a new age of bossism, the notion that management has given up too much control and must wrest it back from employees. After two decades of fighting for talent, chief executives are using this period to adjust for years of management indulgence that left them with a generation of entitled workers.

  • The industry is facing an uneven macroeconomic environment and a roiling stock market that is putting pressure on public tech companies and making for a less-than-ideal I.P.O. environment for private ones.

  • Tech chief executives are now optimizing more for profitability than for growth at all costs, sometimes at the expense of long-held organizational beliefs.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/how-to/why-era-of-happy-tech-workers-may-be-over-now/articleshow/97184342.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Why era of happy tech workers is over now

For nearly two decades, tech companies heralded an approach that centered on making workers happy with benefits that were intended to seamlessly integrate work and life. They made well-being programs and unlimited vacation, initiatives that prioritized the whole person, standard employee benefits. But now that's changing very fast.

Economic Times
@Mer__edith also coincides with chatgpt and copilot. I wonder if they’re hoping to automate. (A misunderstanding if they do)
@Mer__edith but then again, dominance over workers is also about $
@Mer__edith it's a rather wide held believe in the left that recessions are from time to time politically created to reign in workers. if one looks at politicians like magaret thatcher one can come to the conclusion that there is some truth in this.
@Mer__edith my different theory is that top tech firms strategized to forestall competition, by hiring people who would otherwise fuel startups or build open source. The main threat now is anti-big-tech regulation, tho, not startups.
@twersh I don't buy it in large part because startups don't compete with big tech anymore. They license big tech infrastructure and compete with each other to get acquired by big tech.

@Mer__edith —holy hell meredith

i need to sit down now

@Mer__edith @twersh it's almost like "look how competent and keen we are with the economy: we are laying off tens of thousands of people."

And "what? You are not laying off tens of thousands? You are not fit to be CEO."

@locksmithprime
and looks like the case. most are laying off just because others are laying off too, as per this stanford prof.
news.stanford.edu/2022/12/05/e…
@twersh @Mer__edith
What explains recent tech layoffs, and why should we be worried? | Stanford News

As layoffs in the tech sector mount, Stanford Graduate School of Business Professor Jeffrey Pfeffer is worried. Research – by him, and others – has shown that the stress layoffs create takes a devastating toll on behavioral and physical health and increases mortality and morbidity substantially. Layoffs literally kill people, he said.

Stanford News
@Mer__edith @twersh Wow, this is **the** most accurate description of the situation. Did you publish this idea somewhere? Otherwise, I need to cite this toot in my PhD.
@MaxPe @twersh I have not published it, but it remains true nevertheless
@Mer__edith @twersh 💯. will cite the toot. Thank you!

@twersh @Mer__edith Tony, is there room in your theory for the palpable fury among the VC types against empowered tech workers? I am putting together from a few sources that they feel tremendous, overflowing resentment against us. They seem compelled to reassert the natural order of things: workers should flinch when capital speaks.

Listen to VC Josh Wolfe here: https://overcast.fm/+XxhDHF2RM ; and read Elon’s discovered texts through this lens and in the context of the collective rage at Twitter employees and over .

I believe the current tech situation can’t be understood without considering the affective dimension. These aren’t cold-eyed business decisions.

Josh Wolfe on Investing in American Defense — War on the Rocks

Ryan sat down with , co-founder of Lux Capital, in his New York office earlier this month to talk about why he is drawn to invest in companies working on national security challenges. But the conversation covered much more than that. They covered…

@fivetonsflax @Mer__edith It's hard to generalize about motives for layoffs apart from that no one stands out as a villain when everyone else is doing it. VCs imo have little to say with respect to these big firms, they all have their own capital to invest. States, not VCs, threaten monopolies. Elon is the exception there; none of the others are sick children corps. I still think a reduction of the threat of mobile human capital lets these moves happen, now that a "coming recession" gives cover.
@twersh @Mer__edith A lot of people have gotten rich, and gotten into the upper layers of these firms, by knowing and impressing VCs. They have a lot of influence and they are a self-conscious ideological vanguard.

@Npars01 @twersh @Mer__edith Very interesting, thank you.

Maybe I should just say capitalists have it in for tech workers. Or that capitalists have it in for workers, lol.

@Mer__edith a tech workers Union is long overdue. The perks have kept most in tech complacent. We should have the perks and job security
@Mer__edith Time to unionize and not rely on good will when things are going well