Debating whether or not Republicans *really* want to erect a cruel regime of merciless white patriarchal dominance is futile. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is the state level: Wherever they are in charge, they are embracing an authoritarian vision of society. (Thread!)
We discussed this on today’s episode of Is This Democracy: The idea that Republicans are just nihilists who want to burn the system down is not plausible because wherever and whenever they can, they pursue a specific vision to which they are fully committed. 2/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/10-republican-extremism-maga-nihilism-and-the-rise/id1652741954?i=1000594264018
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Ban abortion, control women; criminalize LGBTQ people.
 
Install an authoritarian white nationalist education system, ban dissent.
 
Restrict voting rights, purge election commissions, criminalize protest.
 
These are not disparate actions - it’s one political project. 3/

It’s really hard to keep track of everything that’s happening, on so many levels, in so many states, so many communities, all at the same time.

But it’s all one big story: A multi-level reactionary counter-mobilization against egalitarian multiracial, pluralistic democracy. 4/

Let’s be clear: The country is the United States of America, and it is the twentieth century, any time before the 1960s rights revolution - that’s the vision.

Mercilessly restore and entrench traditional hierarchies of race, gender, religion, and wealth - that’s the project. 5/

Conservatives are pursuing a deeply anti-democratic, anti-liberal, anti-pluralistic vision for American society, and the Right has a clear strategy for how to impose it on the country against majority will. They are fully committed to this reactionary political project. 6/

More news from just the past 48 hours.

Wisconsin. Nebraska. Michigan. North Dakota.

One political project. A comprehensive reactionary offensive. Everywhere, all the time. 7/

This is not the doing of nihilists and chaos agents. It is the work of committed ideologues, fully determined to impose their reactionary vision of what America should be on as many people as possible and to punish those who dare to deviate and dissent. 8/
Ideally, the Supreme Court would step in and put a stop to the escalating attempts to undermine democracy and roll back civil rights. But the conservative majority on the Court is doing the opposite, acting instead as the spearhead of the reactionary counter-mobilization. 9/
Republican-led states and communities undermine democracy and entrench white reactionary rule, with or without the support of a majority of voters; the Supreme Court says: Keep going! All Republicans in Congress have to do is block any national counter-legislation. 10/
Too many moderates, centrists, and liberals have bought into the idea that conservatives are just – and at least somewhat justifiably – pushing back against certain “excesses” of “woke” leftism, and that they will stop once those excesses are kept in check. That’s nonsense. 11/
That’s what the term “backlash” suggests, and why we need to be skeptical about a “backlash” narrative that tends to put the agency solely with traditionally marginalized groups - who are therefore ultimately at fault for causing an inevitable reaction. 12/
What we are up against is an escalating counter-mobilization: Reactionaries are actively mobilizing, they are deliberately pursuing a political project. They have agency – and therefore should be held accountable for the policies they support. 13/ https://thomaszimmer.substack.com/p/democracy-faces-a-reactionary-counter
Democracy Faces a Reactionary Counter-Mobilization

A Reflection on What We Are Up Against – Part I

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At the heart of the reactionary project is the refusal of resentful people to compromise with the vision of egalitarian multiracial pluralism, with anyone who deviates from their idea of the natural/divinely ordained white patriarchal order, because they feel entitled to dominate all spheres of life. 14/
These people won’t stop because they have an epiphany that they shouldn’t go *that* far. They will either *be stopped* - or install a system in which only they and those who reflect their image back at them are entitled to rule and are recognized as equal. /end
@tzimmer_history the problem is too many on the left are still squeamish about punishing these fascists because they are convinced such a punishment is also evil because it would be “authoritarian” in its own way. We need to explicitly start calling for these people’s heads, instead of pretending we can still shake hands with people who want us dead. Embrace the fact that we need to use what authority we have.

@chairgirlhands @tzimmer_history my concern, which has been my concern for years, is that the only effective options available to us are ones we have been staunchly indoctrinated against. Conversations with leftists and liberals alike in my experience get to a point that says "the cancer in our country must be stopped!" And then when I ask what they are willing to do to stop it we all look at each other uncomfortably and try to avoid looking at the elephant in the room, wearing plate and armed to the tusks. None of us want to be that. But with the alt-right consistently showing up dressed for war at school board meetings, children's story hours, and where ever else they feel might be an easy target, we need to start hardening against these threats, or as has been said... They will not stop. There is no end point for them.

Even in this post I dance around what I think the responsibility of every able-bodied anti-fascist should be, because this thought is a third rail in my mind. Utterly reprehensible. And yet there it is: we are at war and we are unarmed. Violence is being enacted on us and those we love, systemic, and direct. We must arm up to defend ourselves and our community against this fascist cancer. But I fear we do not have the stomach for it. I know I do not, at least not on my own. Not without mentors.

There are folks pursuing this goal, I am at least aware of @yellow_peril_tactical, and @beautfc has done a lot to at least push me away from straight up "gun bad!" mentality (though a large part of me is hoping he sees this and swings in and tells me I'm an idiot and that all I should be doing is, idk, telling people to vote or some other comfortable thing), but I am having hard time seeing enough folks start making the next logical moves. If we don't start defending ourselves, what will happen to us?

@poorpossum @chairgirlhands @tzimmer_history @yellow_peril_tactical @beautfc

Sounds like you should head over to Reddit r/liberalgunowners

@dlakelan God no, /r/SRA. But this is exactly my problem. It's all online and we need in person. As someone who doesn't own a car, in a blue state, it's very difficult to get to the resources you need to learn and train without a group that has the infrastructure to help you out. I've talked to members of the New England SRA, and told them my situation, and they said they'd be in touch... but nothing has happened. I'm tired of people talking in circles online, we need to start helping people in our actual, geographic communities tool up and skill up.

@chairgirlhands @tzimmer_history

Some of us grew up in Conservative families who figured that percussive maintenance would cure a rebellious nature.

I have no difficulty reacting as you suggest. My wife is disappointed in me, but there you go.

However, restorative Justice would be an acceptable path. Or maybe ketamine therapy. :}

@tzimmer_history This is correct but I would go a step more: they will set everything on fire if they are king of the ashes after or if they think they will lose.

They have already decided on killing us, the how (and if they kill themselves) is in question... most of the time they somehow think they will be immune to any fallout. Interestingly.

@Aviva_Gary @tzimmer_history this applies perfectly to russia's actions in Ukraine
@KevinLikesMaps @tzimmer_history I would argue any sufficiently large imperial power but yes them too.
@tzimmer_history great toots info, all of this needs to be boosted.
@tzimmer_history we are talking Gilead aren’t we?

@tzimmer_history A noted scholar on fascism and its history, @AnarchoNinaWrites, was discussing this with me recently. Her position is total destruction is the only goal of the fascist "project".

But they'll have no problem using the existing political/government infrastructure to achieve that goal. Fascists don't make anything, they just want to burn it all down.

#Fascism #TotalDestruction #Goals

@tzimmer_history we must be intolerant of intolerance. Not punishing facists led eventually to the Blitz and Auschwitz.
@tzimmer_history It is also the fact that the economic system as it is has reached a boiling point. Capitalism is devouring itself while fueling this kind of reactionary movements. Hell, capitalim IS hierarchy and the dominion of one class over the rest.

@tzimmer_history Hmmm....run-on sentence; inexact usage of commas; multi-spatially-interdynamic polysyllabic words. Looks good, sounds good. Loses the audience entirely.

Besides which, IMO it's a silly and personalized construct.

In a word they're "entitled". Oh.

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That is the (fictional) #America they think was "great" and they want to bring back because #White #Male #Christian culture was dominant.

@tzimmer_history Not just "are actively mobilizing", "HAVE BEEN actively mobilizing". This goes back a long way, we're just seeing it in full bloom now.

It's essential that people who are not part of this #reaction realize that there are never any settled questions, and that #reactionaries will work FOREVER to undermine any " #progress " that has been made. Laws will be rescinded, #SupremeCourt rulings overturned, #rights curtailed, whatever it takes.

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And yet you still use "conservative" when it is clearly inappropriate.

And they are clearly anti-democratic. The days of calling a narrow elite's collective rule a democracy because they alone vote on things are well past. If it's not power for the people, but power for the rich white males, then it's not democracy.

@tzimmer_history WAIT! You mean that Hamline University, itself and alone, is not wholly responsible for the backlash?

@tzimmer_history
The 'backlash' narrative, where the growing acceptance of people who as a whole simply want to live their own lives in peace and relative prosperity 'justifies' a reactionary assault against their rights and very lives, carries with it another name in certain groups.

That name is 'DARVO'.

If it can be shown that marginalized groups don't _have_ to be, then there must never have been any reason for that selfsame othering in the first place. Bigots were just... wrong.

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May I suggest this reaction is no more accidental than the actions of Christian nationalists themselves? It's not *just* naivete (at least at the leadership level), it represents a core philophical outlook.

The dance between liberalism & fascism isn't new. The dynamics of the interwar era, with some modern flourishes, are at work today.

@tzimmer_history And too many have bought into the idea that it doesn't matter, or that their vote doesn't count. So they stay home. See Texas voters 18-30.
@tzimmer_history I don't think anyone who self-IDs as a liberal actually thinks this. I mean, you could find a few MattY types, sure, if you look hard enough, but the vast majority of libs now understand what the right is and what it's doing.

@tzimmer_history This is what I call ideological centrism.

Where your ideas aren't centrist ideas...they're simply the average of whatever the two parties say.

So if you have one right wing extremist party and one mainstream party, centrists become hard right conservatives.

Where as, centrism would instead dictate alignment with the centrist mainstream party.

@tzimmer_history "and at least somewhat justifiably"

Yeah no. Please don't blame vulnerable communities for the violence done to them.

@veirling (I think he thinks the moderates think it's somewhat justifiable, but the wording is... unclear at best.)
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@acm_redfox @veirling The “wording is unclear”? I’m specifically saying: *too many* people are buying into this argument - an argument which I then explicitly call nonsense. And that’s even before taking into account the context of a long thread that has several posts pushing back against this “justifiable backlash” narrative. Come on now.
@tzimmer_history @acm_redfox Yes, and the rest of the thread is clear in its positions and intentions. For what its worth, I liked the thread. Just critiquing that first sentence. It leaves itself open to misinterpretation. This seems like a fuss, but sh1t is literally on fire now as you so well pointed out in the thread.
@tzimmer_history @veirling It is unclear whether the parenthetical is their opinion or yours. I agree that the thread as a whole has a clear viewpoint. But I did pause at the same point that Veirling did, and I'm a competent reader.
@tzimmer_history Same ones that believed that the Right would finally come on board of gun control after the slaughter of babies at Sandy Hook. They apparently don’t understand extremism.

I would like to honestly say to you that the white backlash is merely a new name for an old phenomenon... The fact is that the state of California voted a fair housing bill out of existence before anybody shouted black power or before anybody rioted in Watts.

...there has never been a single, solid, monistic, determined commitment on the part of the vast majority of white Americans on the whole question of civil rights...

MLK
The Other America
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#art #mastoart #midjourney
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@tzimmer_history Innuendo Studios has a great video in the "Alt-Right Playbook" series which includes the line that many liberals think of conservatives as failed liberals - people with the same basic worldview and just incomplete or inaccurate information. In order to combat conservativism, we have to understand that the conservative worldview is inherently hierarchical and fundamentally against diversity (of peoples, of family makeups, or of thought).

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It is an anti-American, racist fascist movement, in fact.

Fascism will indeed take care of any leftist excesses, as well as everything else left of the extreme rightwing.

@tzimmer_history Centrists and so called "liberals" are the best allies of the republican party.

They are only useful to kill every leftist movement that threatens their control of the Democrats.

Ideally, the Supreme Court would step in and put a stop to the escalating attempts to undermine democracy and roll back civil rights. But the conservative majority on the Court is doing the opposite, acting instead as the spearhead of the reactionary counter-mobilization@tzimmer_history I'm reading this in July 2024, and ... yeah.

@tzimmer_history democrats asleep at the wheel, not doing anything to crack down and punish these queerphobic terrorists.

@tzimmer_history

This is the GQP's boogeyman and they accuse the Democrats of "forcing" people to change their sexuality.

The stupid must burn them.

@tzimmer_history This is beyond upsetting. It’s inhuman.
@tzimmer_history nuke the states and start over st this point /hyp
@tzimmer_history awful stuff. The librarians in Michigan did the right thing. Can't roll over for the fascists. They may have been shut down, but the fascists have to be made to own their fascism.