ginnyfromgtx
Steve Herman#Twitter just informed me the appeal of my permanent suspension is denied and still claims that referencing #ElonJet social media accounts violated a certain person’s privacy.
UnfunnyRyan 🌎 ♻️@w7voa unbelievable.
Leesamkap@w7voa free speech absolutist…amirite?
FrinI wouldn't be surprised if appeals aren't necessarily read by anyone, and auto-rejected unless someone feels like intervening.
Mike M.
Leftwardswing@w7voa He's a selfish prick. Excuse the language but sometimes you say what needs to be said.
I'm glad you're here ❤️
IPng Networks@w7voa too bad Steve, but I consider this a sinking ship so perhaps we can all just focus our attention to the alternative wooly mammoth variant ?
Steven Bodzin@w7voa thank you for all the info over here. I do wish other reporters had more solidarity.
Freakinbox@w7voa Interesting when given their mission statement
"The mission we serve as Twitter, Inc. is to give everyone the power to create and share ideas and information instantly without barriers. Our business and revenue will always follow that mission in ways that improve – and do not detract from – a free and global conversation."
Claire Jameson
Matt Blaze@w7voa Noticing the whereabouts of an airplane that broadcast its location is a privacy violation in the same way that observing the non-existence of an emperor's clothes is.
Half Cocked Law@mattblaze @w7voa The flasher wants to know why perverts keep looking at his dick?
Steve Popovich
Incognitim
Christian Huitema@mattblaze @w7voa
I don't want to spoil the fun of dunking on a certain rich guy, but replace "tracking plane by listening to its radio beacons" with "tracking car with web connected license plate readers" and I get a very uneasy feeling.
I don't want to spoil the fun of dunking on a certain rich guy, but replace "tracking plane by listening to its radio beacons" with "tracking car with web connected license plate readers" and I get a very uneasy feeling.
Marta Threadbare@mattblaze @huitema @w7voa ADS-B is a public protocol as far as I know. I wouldn't even count it as hacking.
@cygnathreadbare @huitema @w7voa There's no hacking involved. It's using the transmissions for exactly what the protocol was designed to do. Elon's disingenuous faux-outrage is nothing more than an expression of his privileged resentment that the same rules apply to him as everyone else.
Tips for Overcomers@w7voa @huitema @mattblaze @cygnathreadbare
Hmmm…. Up until now I’ve thought the same. Now I’m not so sure. I don’t know the law well enough.
Is it lawful to snoop on and decode a signal [containing personal information], and then to use that information for purposes other than what it was intended for, even if that signal is not encrypted?
@WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare You're not "snooping". The transmissions are publicly broadcast so that those who receive them can know where your aircraft is at any moment. That's the *purpose*.
Gretchen Anderson@mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare when his plane goes down in the Andes he might want the signal to be public
Stu Duerson, machina exo deus@gretared @mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
The upside to Musk's plane going down in the Andes is that he has a high calorie count.
Sedunker@skydog and by the looks of it, very tender skin. Thin, even.
Raker de W4WWW@mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
In the US, the only things that are unlawful to receive unencrypted are cellular telephone service signals, within a very specific range, as set in the early 1990s. It has not been updated for modern bands and technologies due to encryption laws precluding the decryption of over the air cellular signals (or anything that is sent encrypted, including public service communications).
@w4www_raker @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
That's mostly, but not entirely correct. There are a couple other categories of signals that are unlawful to intercept under some circumstance.
@mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
Interesting, I would love to learn what these unlawful to intercept signals are.
@mattblaze @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
Well that’s also my opinion, but I was hoping for something more definitive. (Note: “snoop” not intended to mean anything more than “listen to”)
Just looked at the FAA site, can’t see anything prohibitive.
I suppose the most convincing evidence is that no lawsuits have been filed. Lawyers have almost certainly been asked.
Reciprocity D'Parture@mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare An important distinction is that ADSB isn't about tracking a PERSON. It's sharing info about a VEHICLE.
If the Musk mElon doesn't want to be tracked he can fly Southwest. Or rent a plane. He can afford it...for not at least
Patrick Heeren@mattblaze @WayOut @w7voa @huitema @cygnathreadbare
It is not exactly public available information, the ID is disguised and the plane is actively reidentified by elonjet. Look into PIA and LADD.
Don't mean to say I support Musk's stance, but you won't find his plane on flightradar24, so it is not as simple as some people say it is.
@cygnathreadbare @WayOut @huitema @w7voa @p_heeren It’s a six hexadecimal character identifier. That’s what’s being tracked. The fact that some services don’t report it doesn’t change the fact that this is public information. It’s really not complicated.
Holly 🚀⚜️@mattblaze @cygnathreadbare @huitema @w7voa I always thought it was weird that the guy who owns a company that transports humans to space cannot comprehend the concept of airplane transponders.
He could rent a plane if it bothers him that much. The fact that he owns it enables that plane with that tail number to be associated with him specifically
Rich folks rent private jets all the time. My friend is a pilot for one of those companies
Bill@w7voa @mattblaze @huitema
Well to be fair, he and his gang paid $44B for the right.
The big story here is the overlords attempting to achieve global domination by controlling the public discourse.
@mattblaze @w7voa Yes, and I have little pity for the guys choosing to ride private jets yet trying to hide their location. But I would want an expectation of privacy for 'regular folks' despite ALPR and face tracking cameras. How exactly do we set the principle that tracking planes or boats is OK but tracking cars or pedestrians is not?
@huitema @w7voa There are lots of ways that ALPRs and ADS-B transmissions are different, starting with the fact that airplanes and cars are different forms of transportation with different expectations associated with them. We can discuss the (many) ways the sudden emergence of ALPR-based tracking is problematic, but it's more different than similar to ADS-B aircraft tracking.
Bynkii@huitema @mattblaze @w7voa look man, if you don’t understand why planes and cars aren’t the same, just say so.
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦
Merc@mattblaze @w7voa @huitema It's also not giving Elon's location, just the location of something he owns.
If he donated the use of his plane for medical emergencies or moving organs for transplantation around when he wasn't using it, nobody would know whether he and the plane were in the same place.
We can only track his movements by tracking his plane because he uses it so often, and if it's in the air, he's probably in it.
sabik@mattblaze @huitema @[email protected]
Unlike car license plates, the entire point of aircraft transponders is to broadcast the location of the plane; it's not some secondary or innovative use
Unlike car license plates, the entire point of aircraft transponders is to broadcast the location of the plane; it's not some secondary or innovative use
@sabik @mattblaze I am less familiar with planes, but look at how the BoatUs association presents AIS: identify potential dangers, make decisions on the water. The expectation is that it improves safety. The privacy tradeoff is not mentioned at all. But could society get the good, improved safety, without the bad, compromised privacy?
https://boatus.org/ais/
https://boatus.org/ais/
Rich Stein (he/him)@mattblaze @huitema @w7voa A certain person who thinks he is special could turn off the transponder on his plane and see how that goes over with ATC, the FAA, local authorities under the airspace he transits, et al. I don't think they'll buy into his "rules for thee, not for me" nonsense.
@RichStein @huitema @w7voa And in fact, if he really wants to fly without a transponder, he can. But there are restrictions on things like the altitude and flight conditions.