Sabine K. aus L.Jan 8, 2023
Leon Elsjan of Wipper
Never mind you can't ski in the Alps this winter. Think about the empty rivers in spring and all the failed harvests this summer all over Europe.
Jan 6, 2023 at 11:44amWeb
Show threadJeroenJan 6, 2023
@LeonEoW this will only be the start. For the next (at least) 30 years this will not change any more.
Maybe in a few years the politicians will want to change drastically enough. (but it could take several years before it comes into action)
#climatechangeisnow #timeisup #theworstisyettocome
Show threadAgoraJan 6, 2023
@LeonEoW I know, right?
Show threadred_rooster Jan 6, 2023

@LeonEoW

The truth is that still a lot of people go skiing and the ski areas invest much efforts to enable that.
And a lot of people get hurt because the pistes are narrow and crowded
weird!

Show threadDan YorkJan 7, 2023
@LeonEoW Wow! Where is that photo from?
Show threadLeon Elsjan of WipperJan 7, 2023
@danyork If I remember correctly from an article about the lack of snow in Switzerland. Could be stock photo from somewhere else.
Show threadFCJan 7, 2023
@LeonEoW stop thinking two steps ahead. People are gonna get brainfreezzes in a scorching heatwave ;)
Show threadLeon Elsjan of WipperJan 7, 2023
@fatalisticcritic I must admit I'm often baffled that most people can't think beyond the now.
Show threadHafstorsk Tutiluren RufsgössenJan 7, 2023

@LeonEoW Not to forget: what water will run the hydro plants or cool the nuclear reactors?

There are still chances of some more precipitation though, so let's hope for that and done cooler weather.

Show threadDavid Oude WesselinkJan 7, 2023
@LeonEoW or the damage to the nature because of all the people that want to ski…
Show threadRhinos Worry Me has movedJan 8, 2023

@LeonEoW

Those things mostly affect poor people. But SKIING darling!! /s

Show threadMartin BouwmansJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW Mensen leren hier niet van. Het ergste met het hele COVID gebeuren vond men niet op vakantie te kunnen….. naar Griekenland of Turkije.
Show threadGeorgeJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW
Carbon addicted humanity…?! > Rehab!
Show threadpeter tamerusJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW De echte grote chaos komt er nog aan.
Show threadAnders GundelachJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW Yes, that is more scaring 😱
Show threadBob_C-PJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW Great post. Where and when was this picture taken?
Show threadLeon Elsjan of WipperJan 8, 2023
@Rclarkphelps No idea. It comes from an article about lack of snow in Switzerland but could as well be a stock photo.
It's just illustrative. Posts work better with pics. QED
Show threadBob_C-PJan 8, 2023

@LeonEoW Here’s a CNN article with similar scenes.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/no-snow-european-ski-resorts-climate/index.html

European ski resorts close because there's no snow

Higher temperatures and heavy rain have stripped many European ski resorts of snow, prompting half of France's 7,500 ski slopes to close and raising concerns over long-term prospects for the continent's winter sports season.

CNN Travel
Show threadBob_C-PJan 8, 2023
@LeonEoW And comparison pictures from the CNN article.
Show threadLeon Elsjan of WipperJan 8, 2023
@Rclarkphelps Yes, I saw that too. It could have been the pic for my post but I decided otherwise for no special reason.
Show threadmxkJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW also, if it stays that way, forget about staying on huts this summer. A lot of huts simply will not be able to open, if they don't have water from snowfields.
Neue Prager Hütte already closed at the beginning of August last year after running out of water.
If this trend continues, the same will be true for a lot of huts this year.
And those who can open, will not be able to offer showers, and so on.
Show threadkryphosJan 9, 2023

@LeonEoW well, the people who ski in the alps will have no issues with empty rivers and failed harvests, because they can afford whatever they fancy.

This is the demography whose status is what politicians will cater to.

Shielding the upper middle class from all consequences of climate change will be the #1 priority of our governments.

Expect ski halls being built in the alps.

Show threadDmitry TantsurJan 9, 2023
@kryphos @LeonEoW I wish I was so rich as you describe :) Yeah, middle class will soon stop affording skiing, while the rich will still fly their private jets to places with snow.
Show threadkurtusJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW und die schwindenden Transportmöglichkeiten der Binnenschifffahrt. Mit steigenden Verbraucherpreisen.
Show threadLeon Elsjan of WipperJan 9, 2023
@kurtus51 That too. I just decided to limit the message to something very basic. But the consequences are wide and enormous.
Show threadkurtusJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW You are fully right. And we dont know the full consequences of that disaster till now.
The climate gave us the chance over decades to act and save our survive. But we didnt understand and didnt want to change anything.
Show threadJazzonbikeJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW Wer da Ski fährt, ist pervers!
Show threadSchreibmaxJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW Europe isn‘t the Athabasca. Snow melt has often been the cause of spring flooding, but harvests depend much more on the summer rains in the plains.
Precipitation has been insufficient since 2018 at least, but it actually picked up a bit this winter. Only it’s coming down as rain, rather than snow. So the situation is critical but probably not more so than in recent years.
Show thread@Dwarf :borg_logo:Jan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW looking forward to everything becoming even more expensive ​:tiredcat:​
Show threadPaul WeberJan 9, 2023
@LeonEoW
THIS, precisely.
I am absolutely terrified by the coming hot season here in my corner of the world, inhabited by appx 28 million people: high temps, no rain, no water, huge electricity consumption. We are one of the most affluent regions of the planet: I really want to see how govt’s will be able to implement water bans and rolling blackouts.
Show threadRoryTobeyJan 12, 2023
@LeonEoW Where is this at?
Show threadgmokeFeb 10, 2023

@LeonEoW On the other hand, the larger than usual snowpack in the mountains of CA and the Pacific Northwest are liable to cause a new round of flooding from snowmelt come Spring, on top of the floods and mudslides from the recent atmospheric rivers.

PS: This will be the second year of probable empty rivers in Europe.

Show threadTofu GolemFeb 10, 2023
@LeonEoW
But at least people who own shares in fossil fuel companies made a little more money for a few decades. Wasn't that more important?