Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Jan 6, 2023

one of the reasons qbasic was so successful was because it came preinstalled on your OS and it came with everything. input, text, graphics, sound, even "music" through the PLAY command, even a built in help catalogue detailing how it all worked

the only way to get that same experience today is to use a fantasy console

Show threadbµgJan 6, 2023
@eniko yeah, we went from creative & sciences oriented machines (desktops) to locked-in consumption driven devices (mobiles)
Show threadOblomov

@bug
even on desktops and workstations you have to get your programming tools from somewhere on most OSes.

@eniko

Jan 6, 2023 at 5:14pmWeb
Show threadEniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Jan 6, 2023
@oblomov @bug yeah, desktops aren't really much better for this in the modern day
Show threadThatAlmondCaseyJan 6, 2023
@oblomov @bug @eniko When I tell you that breaking into the CompSci space as a child was actually SO MUCH HARDER because of these changes. Literally felt like I was resurfacing old magic that intentionally was being withheld from me because the machines didn't have tool pre-installed.