@craignewmark @JMMaok @pensato @futurebird @jeffjarvis @jayrosen_nyu

New, so learning, & have a question to clarify . I understand you are hoping to formalize an overall minimal standard for all instances & that would mean enforcement at some point . Which I assume would be universally having the same moderating body & list, or something similiar ? Also, want to note whatever happens the fact moderation with a fair ,open face is what happens here is an achievement & makes a difference .Ty

@karger

To talk about Mastodon in particular the moderation system is OK. I would like to see a ticket system where user reports would create a ticket that could be shared across servers (including notes and links to posts) I'd like to see an *option* to inform users who make reports about what happened.

I'd also like a true shadow-ban option-- limiting is close, but a way to mute a user over a whole server. (been dealing with people who keep making new accounts)

@futurebird yeah there are lots of opportunities for improvement in the moderation system.

@karger moderation's more than just labeling content. It's also about de-escalating situations before they turn into trashfires, protecting people and communities from bad actors, and reinforcing positive norms. People on an instance that prohibits hate speech shouldn't be able to choose "freeze peach" absolutists as their moderators. @jeffjarvis I assume @Zittrain's pitch to FB addressed this?

@karger @futurebird @jeffjarvis @Zittrain Instances are currently the primary mechanism for community in the fediverse so I'm not sure about the distinction you're making.

And Google actually does make decisions about what email to deliver and what to moderate by labeling it as social or spam.

@karger @futurebird

This is analogous to how Twitch moderation works. There are service level expectations (no slurs, organized harassment, etc.) and then on a per channel basis (think instances) there are varying behavior expectations enforced by moderators for that channel (swearing? gameplay suggestions? talking about current events? sharing links?)

Service level expectations are enforced automatically when possible, but channel moderators are also responsible for enforcement.

@karger @drewww to @futurebird’s comment about channels vs instances… as far as I can tell, an instance is not a very meaningful center of community.

I have conversations about music, design, television programs, politics, etc., with different groups of people, and I don’t imagine centering those conversations around any particular instance.

Is there an equivalent of a subreddit (a place to have a conversation around a particular topic) in the fediverse?

@skuwamoto @bhawthorne

I do think it's fair to say the median experience at this point IS those big generic instances, and the way people tend to show up is like on Twitter -- a bundle of interests, posts on a variety of topics. And I rarely see the moderation discourse here being about posts inappropriate to the theme of the instance. More about anti-social behavior generally.

Maybe norms will evolve in that direction, with topic-focused alts being more common.