Katerina MarchánNov 9, 2022

since a lot of folks are becoming newly interested in escaping corporate silos and moving to community-based services, are you aware of @matrix?

Matrix is to Slack and Discord, what Mastodon is to Twitter: a decentralized, federated network based on open standards/specs. It also supports full end-to-end encryption, just like Signal, so you can exchange messages privately!

If you find the fediverse interesting/inspiring, I recommend giving matrix a whirl. The quickest way to get started is to head over to https://app.element.io/ and make a (free!) account (although you can also join any number of other home servers, or host your own--they all talk to each other!).

If you _do_ end up checking it out, please do say hi! I'm @zkat:zkat.tech over there. I also manage a "space" (a group of channels, kinda like a Discord server) that you can join by clicking here: https://matrix.to/#/!tKdDSgQTxQzcOuTXqV:matrix.org?via=zkat.tech&via=matrix.org&via=envs.net

I hope this sparks your interest! I'd love to see you over there, too!

Element

Show threadKaterina MarchánNov 9, 2022

some other thoughts: someone on here recently referred to the Mastodon migration as a good example of the whole dual power philosophy: setting up healthy, community-based alternatives to the current systems of power, ready to have people fall back to them (and all their benefits), when they're finally forced out of the current power structures.

I think building that out for Matrix, even if it doesn't completely replace all your communities (yet!) is something that is worth getting started with right now! It doesn't hurt to get yourself a Matrix account, after all, and you might find some community and discover you like it a lot! (I do! I wish my Discord communities lived there!)

Show threadvague 🔥Nov 9, 2022
@zkat too bad the matrix clients are all kind of poo-poo. But never fear! There is always #irc :)
Show threadLuis/Luigi ☭
@vague @zkat #irc is not a good alternative to #matrix since IRC is not federated. Also it focuses largely on chat rooms rather than individual chats
Dec 27, 2022 at 2:33pmWeb
Show threadzrzzDec 27, 2022
@LuigiDev @zkat @vague I've seen the "IRC not federated" claim before and it doesn't make sense to me. In it's heyday IRC was a federated wild west with hundreds or thousands of independently operated servers talking to each other. If you are saying that IRC's original federation model is not robust enough for today's hostile Internet that's a different argument and I can accept that.
Show threadLuis/Luigi ☭Dec 27, 2022

@zrzz @zkat @vague I'm curious. How did server talk to each other exactly? I may be missing something her.

On the other hand. Building something based on the premise that people is not going to abuse it is usually a weak premise