counterpoint: this is a completely unreasonable and hostile way to approach discussions about user experience or privacy or values or technology and it’s why people just forego having the conversation entirely, leave it up to the nerds and hope it works out for the best (and for *most* people, it does).
screenshot below, i don’t want to pick fights with people on here, but this attitude sucks.

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this kind of shit — which is pervasive *all over mastodon* — is what keeps me from getting very engaged or even interested in this place.
@golikehellmachine I'm holding out that at the rate things are changing that sorta thing will quiet down, or at least become a smaller percentage of interactions as the platform grows.
@golikehellmachine getting weened off Twitter may just make me dump all sites that iterate off it tbh. If Mastodon ends up being a miss then I don’t think I’ll attempt to find something else. Tumblr is right there
@golikehellmachine my solution to this is mostly that I’m going to move to a smaller local instance or maybe start my own, the main gap here imo is the difficulty to starting an instance. Instance proliferation = spoiled for options
@golikehellmachine the only major egghead problem I need fixed before this seems like a real solution is end to end encrypted DMs tbh, once that’s good I think we’re status quo ante with old school forums, which seems fine
@golikehellmachine Generally I agree, though in general depending on a company funded by crypto bros would not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
@golikehellmachine Corporate owned? Sure, fine, whatever. Google or Apple? I might grumble a little but I’m not leaving. The company running the server having a chunk of their assets in their own boutique crypto coin? Less comfortable.
@golikehellmachine IMO the best thing that could happen to Mastadon is if somebody sets up a huge instance in order to make money they make it very intuitive — maybe don’t even mention anything about “federation” or “instances” — and it attracts a lot of users who don’t even understand they’re not on a normal social networking site. Anybody who craves freedom or something different can stay on their nonprofit server and still interact as much as they feel like
@golikehellmachine I think you’re right but I think the Big Mastodons (e.g. Mozilla) are coming and will fix this
@mdruker yeah, that’s basically what i am holding out for at this point, but i can’t say that my time here so far has been particularly satisfying
@golikehellmachine yeah as somebody who's been on masto for a while, there usually isn't this much meta and frankly if you're just on .social you're fine and don't need to think about it.
@golikehellmachine the simultaneous hostility to users who don't want to think about nerd shit, and commercial interests who'd have the resources to polish up the UX and stuff, is quite something. I believe in the open source philosophy, but volunteer projects usually fail to cross the chasm to mass adoption.
@golikehellmachine ideally some big players like the Mozilla foundation and some major media will take the ball and run with it, because I don't see this scaling otherwise.
@wymancr no one seems interested in explaining to me, an idiot, but an idiot who is good at getting smart people to pay attention to me, why anyone should bother here.
@golikehellmachine I'm not here for "community". I'm here for amusement & to shit talk fascism. I picked the first instance I could sign up with & have zero interest in getting to know people.