@Em0nM4stodon
@mmasnick

I love this. I keep thinking that it's so inappropriate to tell people to use CWs on politically or socially sensitive toots, especially toots posted from minorities. If you feel it's important to confront people with important truths (and let's be fair, it IS often important), you don't have to use a CW. If you don't want to see it, filter it.

@mikestevens @Em0nM4stodon @mmasnick so I must spend hours and hours building lists of all the possible words about any subject I don't want to hear about, and I'll still be certain to miss one.

People know when what they're posting is potentially triggering, choosing to not wrap those posts in a CW is a deliberately abusive act. I have no respect for it.

Saying "you can filter" is the tech equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that dress".

@Geoff
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about politically and socially significant issues that a lot of people want wrapped in CWs because they want their mastodon time to be a pleasant escapist experience. I'm not talking about toots about individual cases of assault or specific stories of trauma, etc. I understand that even these might trigger victims, but I also think there's an argument that the tooter can toot about social/political issues with thoughtful/respectful language and not have to go all the way to wrapping it in a CW.

I also don't agree that what I'm describing is reasonably equated to "she shouldn't have worn that dress", because I'm talking about toots that speak in service of social issues, not toots that diminish or demean a victim's choices and rights and experiences.

It's not a black & white concept. Saying ALL sensitive toots should be wrapped in CWs is, IMO, going too far to help one group while ignoring what might be best and most effective for another.

@Em0nM4stodon @mmasnick

@mikestevens @Em0nM4stodon @mmasnick no, I don't think you were in any way unclear: you think it's acceptable that some people are entitled to ignore site norms and to cause actual harm to other vulnerable system users because they themselves are the subject of some level of societal harm, yes?

The point about the dress is not that the posts are sexual in nature, but you're putting the onus on the victim to not place themselves in harmful situations.

@Geoff @mikestevens @Em0nM4stodon hey Geoff, it feels like you're leaping to a very strange conclusion in response to Mike's post and Em's original.

Seems like everyone can take a step back and go on their own way without getting so aggressive.