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Robert Graham1. it was a Grimes stalker, not an Elon stalker
2. near Grime's house
3. 26 miles from the last location of Elon's jet
4. 23 hours after his jet landed
John Panzer@ErrataRob OK but OTHER THAN ALL THAT
SloanLA@ErrataRob Don't believe liars like Elon. Ever. When will the media take their job to verify seriously?
Ray Ryan (he/him)@SloanLA @ErrataRob The Washington Post broke this. Prior to that, most of the coverage I've seen has been very careful to phrase things like "Musk claimed, but offered no proof."
@rjrjr @ErrataRob When it first broke Dec 14, all I saw was repeating Elon’s story, without any caveats. E.g., Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-claims-stalker-targeted-car-young-son-inside-1767293
MSN/The Street https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/elon-musk-launches-a-manhunt-after-alarming-incident/ar-AA15jQ47
Of course Fox, OAN, NYPost, etc. Many updated their stories since then, but what we see time and again is a rush for clicks and no checks.
MSN/The Street https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/elon-musk-launches-a-manhunt-after-alarming-incident/ar-AA15jQ47
Of course Fox, OAN, NYPost, etc. Many updated their stories since then, but what we see time and again is a rush for clicks and no checks.
@SloanLA @ErrataRob It says "claims" right in the headline of the Newsweek example. The article is similarly responsible. Like it or not, his attention seeking is news, unlike yours or mine. The reader had a responsibility to read.
@rjrjr @ErrataRob And they did nothing to check his claim, as I said. We know from study after study repeating lies and claims, even with a disclaimer or stating it is a lie, helps misinformation spread and cements it in our brains as familiar and therefor more believable the next time we hear it. Meanwhile Hot Air and other right wingers even claimed it was Antifa. This is the Age of Information, news media needs a better baseline for their work.
@SloanLA @ErrataRob The Washington Post checked his claims, and the reporter got banned for the effort. It takes time to dig things up, days, especially to do so responsibly.
In the meantime, news is happening. Should Musk's incredibly visible tweets stand there unchallenged in the meantime, with the besmirched ElonsJet guy unable to respond effectively?
@SloanLA @ErrataRob
I don't normally keep going on with threads like this, but the whole "lamestream media" tilt to the general conversation is really bothering me. It's Elon's main talking point, and it's damaging.
I don't normally keep going on with threads like this, but the whole "lamestream media" tilt to the general conversation is really bothering me. It's Elon's main talking point, and it's damaging.
@SloanLA @ErrataRob This is a good take on the whole mess. Journalists and journals are in a terrible position.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/17/elon-musk-twitter-overkill/
@rjrjr @ErrataRob They are in a bad position partly due to bad actors. But they’ve done little to battle it. Is this a breaking story with zero verification? Not even a police check? Label it UNVERIFIED clearly at the top at the very least. I’m not anti media. But I see a higher level of responsibility from only a few versus running for clicks. Don’t absolve them of their complicity either.
@rjrjr @ErrataRob it went unchallenged and unchecked. That’s my point. When 99.99% of your article is repeating his potential lies, you are doing a bad job.
Cosmic Cleric@rjrjr @SloanLA @ErrataRob I long for the days when the news media would wait to have two verified sources before publishing an article.
Trying to clean up messes after the fact doesn't work, because people have moved on, but they have the initial story in their minds, not the latter updates.
@CosmicCleric @rjrjr @ErrataRob Exactly, the old saying about a lie traveling the world before the truth can put on its pants is even worse with the internet. There are so many ways news agencies could label, inform, and discern... but they don't. Most have the exact same clickbait headlines repeating the lie and then copy and paste their article from a single source. It is increasingly dangerous.
Conjectural Tech@ErrataRob yup, it was theater and used as pretense to do something he wanted to do, ban the account with the jet tracking
ExistentialBunny@ErrataRob none of it was on the level
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Tom Cross@ErrataRob You know, I can still see why it would freak you out and make you take a more expansive view of your personal privacy.
Its not the decision to remove Elonjet from the platform the erks me, in isolation, its the backdrop of doing it after announcing staunch free speech principles, allowing Neo Nazis back on the platform, and accusing former employees & advisors of aiding child abuse in the replies of Q-anon thought leaders.
Its safety for me, shit posting for thee.
crabcrimewave aka lowqualityintel@ErrataRob Wild that someone was stalking the mother of his child and Musk thought it was all about him. Almost like he is a narcisist or something, if there are any remaining people who have not picked up on that yet.
Space Karen@lowqualityintel @ErrataRob wealthy malignant narcissists will be the downfall of society
MarkJurva@ErrataRob So, free speech banned with mere impulsive pretext and no due process. I'm telling you, he is not smart.
hopeless wanderer@ErrataRob this is the most succinct debunking of elmo's claims
Stefan Midjich ꙮ҄@ErrataRob here's a plot twist that wouldn't shock me. It was actually Grimes' new boyfriend and Elon is just a jelly little boy.
Airik@ErrataRob oh he was always going to ban ElonJet. Was just waiting for any event like this as a scapegoat. He predicted the ‘safety issue’ a month beforehand.
Benj Soule🫂💙HumanityFirst🌅@ErrataRob this illustrates how the drama queen version of Elon steps up to justify attacks on people who criticize #Musk