If Mastodon diehards want this to be The Next Place after Twitter, the move is to bend over backwards to listen to disabled and Black community about what they do and don't need in social media space.

Even if it's challenging.

Even if it makes you uncomfortable.

These are power user communities, whether folks like it or not.

@gwensnyder Sadly a lot want it not to be that. They want it to be their private gated suburban retirement community where you can only chat about "pleasant" things. They're happy to sit around eating lotuses while the world burns.
@dalias @gwensnyder I think we can find a middle ground between not discussing important issues at all, and constant doomscrolling. A lot of us just don't want that constant toxicity here.

@zorinlynx @gwensnyder You can find that by using all the great features Mastodon has:

Time limited muting of an account.
Disabling boosts for an account.
Unfollowing an account.
Setting up filters to hide some posts based on patterns.
Etc.

Not by tone policing people you're a rando to and trying to control others' experiences.

@dalias @gwensnyder Oh yeah, absolutely I would never try to tell someone they can't talk about what's important to them. That's the nice thing about the lack of an algorithm here; you don't get a lot of content you don't want.

@zorinlynx @dalias @gwensnyder
I'm in agreement and would like to add:

- You can oppose the push to make this "the next Twitter" and still agree with Gwen's opener (I do)

- The #SmallWeb push isn't necessarily the same as cloistered privilege

- The current tools and culture are great! That doesn't absolve us of listening to feedback and making improvements.
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@zorinlynx @dalias @gwensnyder
What if #Mastodon is the scaffolding and cranes? Nothing about us without us; some communities weren't present when today's status was made quo. What if the best thing Mastodon does is bring us together, shows us that more things are possible, and provides a space to coordinate building what we really want / need.

Feels like we'll look back and see a stepping stone and that's great actually.
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@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder

how do i disable boosts for an account? i've never come across that function and i'm the type who explores

@meganox @zorinlynx @gwensnyder It's in the ... dropdown menu on their profile.

@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder

not on web on my instance, thanks for the info tho, i'll poke around some more

@meganox @zorinlynx @gwensnyder It has to be an account you're already following to see it. It's for hiding boosts where that account is the one boosting it, not where they're the original author.

@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder

ah of course, thanks for taking the time to explain

@meganox @zorinlynx @gwensnyder No problem. Glad to help folks getting settled in here figure out how to make Mastodon work best for the experience they want.
@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder Is there a difference between โ€œtone policingโ€ and calling a poster out for being racist? Political correctness can certainly go too far, but I find nothing objectionable about criticizing shitty things that people post. Maybe Iโ€™m not understanding what you mean by โ€œtone policing.โ€

@johngove @zorinlynx @gwensnyder Yes there's a difference - they're pretty much opposites.

One is a matter of content considered unacceptable because of how it causes harm and because of specific history of power relationships.

The other is a matter of declaring the means of expression by which someone informs about and organizes against those power dynamics unacceptable because it's unpleasant for you to hear.

@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder Ah, understood. Youโ€™re not objecting to legitimate criticism of harmful opinions (like racism). Youโ€™re criticizing those who object to the way that legitimate criticism (of things like racism) are expressed.

@dalias @zorinlynx @gwensnyder

THANK YOU @dalias for saying so. Your voice of reason is appreciated.

There are so many people who keep saying "nothing political" but aparently the fact that I exist is political. It's very strange. It's like a white picket fence. I genuinely don't understand what we are supposed to post. Flowers & sunsets?

It feels like control freaks on here just seem angry at everything and everyone and keep telling people to be nice without following the same advice.

@zorinlynx @dalias @gwensnyder interesting you call it doomscrolling and constant toxicity
@gwensnyder @dalias @zorinlynx @BabsSheKing Right? What some call โ€œdoomscrollingโ€ and โ€œconstant toxicityโ€ I call โ€œmarginalized people speaking openly about our livesโ€ and โ€œlistening to and amplifying each other.โ€

@loosestrings @gwensnyder @dalias @BabsSheKing I absolutely agree that the discourse needs to happen. But it's also a mental health issue for many. It's telling that my depression goes away when I'm off social media a few days.

We just need a better balance I think. I wish I could just have a "catch up on the discourse" period each day, and the rest of the time sharing cat pictures etc.

@zorinlynx @loosestrings @gwensnyder @BabsSheKing The problem is when someone decides other people's actions to change oppressive conditions they live under have to go on pause or be "less attention-seeking" (i.e. completely ineffective) for the sake of their mental health.

Mastodon gives us much better tools than other social media did to put that on pause *just from our own view* while not interfering with the needs of others to speak in a manner that's effective.

@zorinlynx @loosestrings @gwensnyder @BabsSheKing Beyond the built-in tools like filters and temporary muting, the open protocol makes it possible to create all kinds of new mental health oriented accessibility tools.

Grouping filtered posts into a digest queue, to consume at a time when you feel able to deal with them, is totally doable as a client app feature or an instance feature.

@loosestrings @gwensnyder @dalias @zorinlynx @BabsSheKing

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@zorinlynx @dalias @gwensnyder

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#JohnMastodon

@dalias @gwensnyder

On Twitter users could browbeat the corporation to allocate resources to address issues and add features.

But on Mastodon there's no parent company or corporate sponsors.

End users either donate for software development or they don't.

There's been a big surge of financial support. It's now... 21,000 Euros a month.

Mastodon's main dev works 14 hours a day and is paid 34,000 Euros a year.

@Jollyspaniard @gwensnyder This has what to do with the thread you replied to?
@dalias @gwensnyder I don't let those people have their way. I say something. So far, they haven't had a response for me.