Dan SinkerNewsrooms should not spin up instances for their reporters partially because this is too new to dedicate strapped staff to, partially because layoffs mean reporters would lose their timelines bc you can't migrate posts, partially because newsrooms are *already* not great at social media policies, and mostly because the problem it ostensibly solves, verification, can be done by just sticking rel=me into author pages and letting reporters self-verify super easily wherever they set up shop here.
Jeff Jarvis@dansinker Yes to all but... news organizations should see an ethical obligation to share the load in a federated universe. They benefit from social media; they should pay back.
@jeffjarvis there are a lot of ethical obligations newsrooms *should* see but don't, I'd put the fediverse pretty low down on that list tbh.
ianhillmedia@dansinker @jeffjarvis What Dan said. Plus, what do you see as the benefits that news orgs are gaining from the fediverse ATM that would justify the investment?
@ianhillmedia @dansinker Sigh. In a federated universe, people share the load. I am using money from my center at CUNY to support the out-of-pocket costs of @adamdavidson starting journa.host because the fediverse is run by such volunteers. We in news media will benefit from this federated ecosystem--no longer subject to the whims of insane moguls--and should pay back. Everything isn't about us and our pathetic bottom lines.
william.maggos@jeffjarvis @ianhillmedia @dansinker @adamdavidson
it might be hard to rationalize at this point, but if your organization has a website, it will want to have a fediverse server. if you'd be fine with a page on Facebook (remember AOL keywords?), maybe not. it's the same level of independence.
Chris Thomas@wjmaggos @jeffjarvis @ianhillmedia @dansinker @adamdavidson I've been thinking the same thing but my mind goes to email as an analogy. The availability of a self hosted solution is going to make using a public one seem "low rent" and unprofessional
Raphael@killfile @dansinker @jeffjarvis @adamdavidson @wjmaggos @ianhillmedia are people going to have separate fedi-identities for business and personal use just like many do with email? Is a company going to create a user on their instance for each employee? Will be interesting to see where this goes.
@null @dansinker @jeffjarvis @adamdavidson @wjmaggos @ianhillmedia I wouldn't assume that. I think the use cases for mastodon are different from those of email, especially for individuals, but that for "official corporate" communications, a self hosted solution will confer legitimacy.
Reporters and other public faces of an organization though? Yes, two accounts might make sense
Keith ๐บ๐ธ๐ช๐บ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ฆHaving a work fediverse account at a work domain would allow the personal account to verify itself against the work account in a way that a typical user understands: hey, the work account points to this personal account.
@killfile @adamdavidson @wjmaggos @ianhillmedia @dansinker @jeffjarvis
BenAveling@killfile @wjmaggos @jeffjarvis @ianhillmedia @dansinker @adamdavidson
It's simple enough to outsource ownership and maintenance of a Mastodon site while still having it present as your brand.
I would be suspicious of any large company that isn't organised enough to do that.
DSmith_Tucson@killfile @wjmaggos @jeffjarvis @ianhillmedia @dansinker @adamdavidson That was exactly my thinking. Our reporters don't email from a yahoo account.
Matฤj Cepl ๐ช๐บ ๐จ๐ฟ ๐บ๐ฆ@DSmith_Tucson @killfile @wjmaggos @jeffjarvis @ianhillmedia @dansinker @adamdavidson Certainly, it is unprofessional to free ride for your work, but there is another question: should you have your account on some public server (newsie.social, journa.host, or something else) or should there be nytimes.social and all employees should be there?