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terrypdixon Dec 16, 2022

@auschwitzmuseum @histodons
New to this Mastodon, so apologies if this seems AS, which it is not. I follow you and retweet (not sure how to share on M'don) over on twitter, but I also despair because whilst you show the horrors of apartheid/fascism leading to holocaust, your co-religionists in Zion keep demonstrating what they learnt back in Europe and bring the worst things to the "homeland". Have you ever considered commenting on current murders in the home state? I wish you well 1/2

Siobhán McElduff

@terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons don't you think the two are very different things? Unless you have the same expectations of every religious group or community or country, expecting the Auschwitz Museum to comment on Israel strikes me as anti-semetic, given that those murdered there and the murderers have nothing to do with the state of Israel.

@siobhanmcelduff @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons fair enough to suggest that Auschwitz Museum has no locus commenting on matters taking place in present day Israel.

However, to suggest that the government of Israel has nothing to do with it is arrant nonsense. Like suggesting the British government had nothing to do with the troubles in the north.

@peterbrown @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons I didn't say that. I just said that asking the museum to make a statement on the current system of things in Israel is inappropriate at best, and at worst anti-semetic.

@siobhanmcelduff @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons okay that’s maybe not what you meant but I do suggest you read the last sentence of that toot, starting from “given that those murdered there”

@peterbrown @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons the murderers = the nazis. I have no idea why you want to bring in Israel into a discussion of the Holocaust, but I really hope you think a bit about why that is before you do it again. Israel is responsible for its own offenses, and dragging it into discussions of everything to do with the Jewish people is problematic.

@siobhanmcelduff @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons wow!
You wrote a sentence which I now realise was ambiguous and now it’s my fault?
Harumph.
And harumph again.

I’m off for a coffee .

@peterbrown @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons

I'm saying it's inherently problematic to ask the museum to issue a comment on the modern state of Israel, and that you should reflect before you bring Israel into unrelated horrors relating to the Jewish people. I don't feel that's an enormous ask. Israel =/= all things Jewish.

@siobhanmcelduff @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons

*I* didn’t.

Look at the thread.

Typhoid Mango Dec 17, 2022

@siobhanmcelduff @peterbrown @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons Siobhán the problematic here is not you. I did not find anything you wrote ambiguous at all.

stefan boberg Dec 17, 2022

@siobhanmcelduff @peterbrown @terrypdixon @auschwitzmuseum @histodons
It's more than that. Saying:

> your co-religionists in Zion keep demonstrating what they learnt back in Europe

is deeply #antisemitic