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Julia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Dec 16, 2022

Bore da, good morning and
🥊💤Cysgu mewn het/hoodie a menig is my favourite thing newydd. Reckon I'll keep doing it ar ol yr amser iâ, cysgu yn dda
👭Dysgu a life role newydd: sut i ddod frind da a confidant instead of just a car sharer
👶 Keeping a pregnant colleague safe. Un o fy rhan hoff o fy swydd. Meeting pregnant staff for a risk assessment may sound dull, but the conversations are wonderful, so many ways to help
#3GoodThings
#Wenglish #Cymsneg #Cymru #DysguCymraeg

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Spenbroc 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺🇺🇦🚴🏊🏃🧗⚖️Dec 16, 2022

@Ohmissusgee

#wenglish Just love that tag!

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Julia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Dec 16, 2022

@spenbroc
Ah yes, portmanteau words!

I was torn between Wenglish (Welsh/English) which seems to emphasise English language.

Or some version of Cymneg (Cymraeg/Saesneg) which feel culturally correct, but sounds clumsy.

Which do you prefer?

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Spenbroc 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺🇺🇦🚴🏊🏃🧗⚖️Dec 16, 2022

@Ohmissusgee

Well perhaps either! But not being a Welsh speaker or reader, I checked the meaning of Seasneg to find this (not sure of the source mind you): see screenshot below.....

So maybe that'll give more scope for you to develop a #tag more culturally sound?
All I can offer is #Cwmish keeping Welsh and English in one tag!

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Julia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Dec 16, 2022

@spenbroc #Cwmish ! Genius! I like it better than #Wenglish What do you think @jaz ?

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Chris Dec 16, 2022

@Ohmissusgee @spenbroc @jaz
#Wenglish is pretty well established as the standard designation for “Welsh spoken through the medium of English” 😉
#bratiaith (ragged language) is also used but has pejorative connotations - though I used it as my internet "handle" back in the day to wind up the heddlu iaith - grammar police
"Gwell Cymraeg slac na Sisneg slic"
as the old saying puts it.

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Julia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Dec 16, 2022

@cris @spenbroc @jaz Certainly agree that Wenglish is well established. It's what I've been using for years. ( Also appreciate that old saying Cris, it's a good un!)
But also remembering Jaz's toot about moving to use Welsh names instead of anglicised versions. Times are a changing.
Could #Cwmish be a revolutionary act? 😮
(Well out of my depth here, but appreciating the safe place to express an opinion👍)

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jaz

Dec 16, 2022

@Ohmissusgee @cris @spenbroc it's a good point, Wenglish sounds right to me but that's just learned behaviour. Cymneg seems appropriate but I'm no expert.

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Julia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Dec 16, 2022

@jaz @cris @spenbroc me neither. 👍👍But fun to ponder about.
I'll have to leave this now, sorry everyone. Work calls.
Thanks for the engagement and thoughtful conversation. 👏👏

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Chris

@Ohmissusgee @jaz @spenbroc
One thing to ponder :
Cwmish would mostly be understood as "valleyish" since the suffix "ish" is used in wenglish exactly as it is in colloquial English.
and (sorry to lower the tone but there is a "darker underbelly" to modern Welsh speaking culture that needs to be recognised if not approved of 😳)
"Cymish" would probably sound quite vulgar since cym is a way of spelling cum in wenglish.

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Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺Dec 16, 2022

@cris @Ohmissusgee @jaz @spenbroc
Perhaps a spectrum...

Cymraeg
Cymrish
Cymglish
Welglish
Wenglish
English?

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Chris Dec 16, 2022

@Henrysbridge @Ohmissusgee @jaz @spenbroc
I'm all for "putting stuff out there" and seeing what gets traction.