Joshua MarshallDec 11, 2022
dear god it’s really rancid over there. the stuff I’m used to seeing on later banned accounts or on stormfront
Show threadJuan SalvoDec 11, 2022
@joshtpm at what point do you leave Josh? Posting anything at all is just giving fuel to the feed. Creating impressions and giving him runway.
Show threadJoshua Marshall
@Jsalvo thinking about it
Dec 11, 2022 at 6:47pmWeb
Show threadYusuf GadDec 11, 2022
@joshtpm @Jsalvo Josh, if I may suggest tagging Apple, Google and Amazon on all those rancid posts.
Basically, “You guys cool with this? Just checking what the market share of Nazi’s you guys are trying to advertise to.”
Show threadJuan SalvoDec 11, 2022
@ygadinthesix @joshtpm you think they haven’t noticed? There’s no tweet you can hit publish on that’s gonna fix it.
Show threadYusuf GadDec 11, 2022
@Jsalvo @joshtpm think of it as a brand safety brute force attack.
Show threadSpockoDec 11, 2022
@ygadinthesix @joshtpm @Jsalvo
This is exactly what needs to be done.
Also Screencap them first because they might be deleted eventually.
And a screencap with a timestamp allows the companies to see how quickly Twitter acted (or didn't act)
Musk is planning on using AI for content moderation, but the trolls are very clever and learn how to outsmart them. Musk fired the people on the Trust and Safety who can figure out the tricks & dodges of trolls.
Show threadJuan SalvoDec 11, 2022
@spocko @ygadinthesix @joshtpm the companies know. Your tagging them isn’t persuading them, it’s just creating more impressions. Impressions that goose Melon’s usage stats, which make it more valuable for advertisers. The one thing you can do to break that cycle, is JUST. STOP. TWEETING. That’s it. The only way to win bird site war, is to not play bird site war.
Show threadSpockoDec 11, 2022
@Jsalvo @ygadinthesix @joshtpm I hear you. I looked up the contacts at those companies and send them emails. Also, I suggest using the same methodology as what Trusted Flaggers will use in the EU.
Explain what the illegal content was, when it was posted. Then the actions or non actions by Twitter can be tracked
Show threadSiunDec 11, 2022
@ygadinthesix @joshtpm @Jsalvo #StopToxicTwitter is tracking leading Twitter advertisers and updating our effort to get them to stop - worth checking the list as it is updated. https://www.stoptoxictwitter.com/
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Show threadthatcynicalbastardDec 11, 2022

@joshtpm @Jsalvo

We keep wondering why you even bother in the Twitter Post-Musk topic in The Hive. Pretty clear where he is taking it.

It is bizarre, sort of like Bruce Wayne suddenly wanting to hang with the Gotham criminal underclass. He really does not seem sane at all.

Show threadBrett ThomasDec 13, 2022

@joshtpm Speaking as a TPM subscriber -- uh Prime Member -- I'm not there any more, and following you there was the main way I remembered to read TPM.

While here may not be a great new source of subscribers, I'm skeptical you're getting much from the folks left there.

Show threadJoshua MarshallDec 13, 2022
@quark my presence on twitter is not any permanent thing. We’re posting this series a lot there. Because this is a key thing for us to get out. But I was really tiring if the nonsense there and expect I’ll be moving mostly here or to post
Show threadBrett ThomasDec 13, 2022
@joshtpm Thanks for the response! And BTW I should've added that I continue to love your stuff and am very happy to support you and your team's work!
Show threadJoshua MarshallDec 15, 2022
@quark we truly appreciate it. not 100% funded by subscriptions. but close. 85%-90%. so our members make the whole thing possible.