Elon Musk both-sidesing literal nazism.
@chadloder Exactly! How can I compromise with someone who wants me dead?!
@christine @chadloder
Maybe they only want part of you dead?
@Petprez @chadloder like you either are with the people who want me dead or you're with the people who don't. There is no in between.
@Petprez @christine @chadloder that only works for the Dread Pirate Roberts. Being mostly dead also means partly alive!

@christine @chadloder you cannot. You simply cannot.

Oh, and I want you very much alive.

@chadloder Trump did this after Charlottesville. Does Musk not see the irony?
@chadloder I'm beginning to think Musk was poking his own brain with his stupid gizmo when Charlottesville happened.
@chadloder He's really putting me off living on Mars, if that's his idea of a social utopia.
@chadloder Let's not infect Mastodon with the bird shit
@martlund Ignoring nazism has not historically resulted in good outcomes for oppressed groups.
@martlund @chadloder Hey, it's perfectly reasonable to spread the word that Peelon is a garbage human being

@chadloder "reasoned* debate"

*Actual definition of 'reasoned' subject to assessment by a singular individual with both way too much money and way too much insecurity

@chadloder centrists are fascist enablers
@chadloder Elon lacks basic self awareness
@chadloder What is the centrist term that sits between Good and Evil?
(Asking for Eloon.)
@ijk64 @chadloder a glass half empty of evil?
@chadloder he let this guy (Andrew Anglin) back on while everyone’s eyes were focused on the hip hop nazi #AmbassadorsOfHate
@chadloder I have never laughed when Nazis spoke, Elon. And never heard a "reasoned debate" from one either. There is certainly nothing to "learn" from them.
@chadloder I did not know I needed to see this thread and chuckle, until I did. Thank you Mastodonians!
@chadloder exactly this…the false equivalency are ridiculous and harmful

@chadloder god, and there are some people I know who will defend centrists even though they're also in the groups that the right wants dead

the fuck is this twilight zone episode

Famous Moments in History, Reimagined By Centrists | The Nib

Gotta hear…both sides?

The Nib
@chadloder Laughable if not so serious
@chadloder
Genocide was not a cultural trait of the human species until the advent of "civilization".
@chadloder Fuck Elon and the far right. But why is the fixation on “genocide?” Yea, yea, the holocaust. I get it. But the real and immediate threat is *democracy* itself.
Aren’t we jumping ahead? Or are we taking the loss of democracy as a foregone conclusion?
Feels like taking the eye off the ball in favour of catastrophizing.
@trentbaur Written like someone who is not in a group that is likely to be a victim of genocide @chadloder
@chadloder
He is a narcissistic far right maniac. The wrong man in the wrong place. Dangerous.
@chadloder maybe I’m an outlier but I don’t think I actually want to “engage in reasoned debate”? I want to live my life and help others to live theirs safely, not debate if marginalized groups should have the ability to exist?
@chadloder the far right and far left are equally bad
@chadloder @aureliuspublius the far right are against LGBTQ, are pushing away from democratic norms, and encouraging violence against marginalized folks. The far right want free college and healthcare. Those are not equal in any reasonable definition. Coming from someone who has identified as independent Conservative for nearly 3 decades.
@snowride509 @chadloder now try listing the plethora of ways the far left crosses the line
@aureliuspublius @chadloder my bad, I had a typo in response. I meant to say the far left want free college and free healthcare, not the far right. There is no equivalency between not wanting people to exist (far right) vs free healthcare and higher education (far left). Are there bad apples on the far left? Absolutely!
It sounds like you already have that list of ways the far left crosses the line, why don’t you post your own list rather than ask me to create one?

@snowride509 @chadloder I asked you to create one to gauge the level of self-awareness that is so commonly low in left-leaning circles. You ask a right-leaning person what he thinks is going too far right and he will tell you that racism, authoritarianism, collectivism based on nationality or race and many other possible abuses of the right are crossing a line.

You ask a more left leaning person what the abuses of far-left are and they say "being too nice 🥰"

@chadloder And if you watch closely, Musk and others are moving the Overton Window. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window #overtonwindow #overtonwindowshift
Overton window - Wikipedia

@chadloder nobody wants to engage in reasonable fucking debate, come on
@chadloder: This is akin to affirming that "AllLivesMatter" with total disregard of why #blm exists in the first place. #Elon is so lost #ElonShutTheFuckUp
@chadloder feel like this was also the BBC approach
@chadloder block yourself from my account.
@chadloder Who's gonna tell Elon that the center 80% of people do not want to share a website with a dude named "LogicReasoner1776" with a Goyoper icon and a bio that reads "Exterminator of commies, trannies, and jews" who can't be banned thanks to Musk's "Free Speech Absolutist" attitude.
@chadloder But of course, history knows nothing about mass killings under communist regimes...
@chadloder he’s absolutely sickening. Can’t wait till he loses millions of us who won’t put up with his BS

@chadloder It cannot be that only those on the hard Left believe genocide is NOT a subject for ‘rational debate’. Perhaps I’ve lived a sheltered life but I’ve studied and discussed politics with people of most political persuasions for over 25yrs and never once met someone who thought the Holocaust was up for debate.

Either the vast majority of people are leftwing or Musk is defenistrating the Overton Window.

@chadloder the 80/20 thing referenced and in the second was a theory invented by one of Mussolini’s fascists. (And is obviously total bullshit)
@chadloder Communists claiming that "The right" wants to "do genocide" is the funniest thing I've read all year.
@chadloder there is a reason why some of us are free to roam the streets, and some are in jail. Not everyone is capable of remaining decent and reasonable. Not sure why Elon thought it’d be any different.
@chadloder There's a comic I vaguely recall where there's a debate between one person saying "peace" and another saying "genocide." They meet to seek a reasonable compromise, and land on "murder."
@chadloder extremely funny considering he just let world's most repugnant neonazi andrew anglin back on the site
@chadloder pretty much the truth considering the Mexican border and increasing police budgets
@chadloder A reasoned debate with a far right extremist? Elon’s clearly already living on a different planet…

@chadloder also worth noting he’s one of the people who has taken the 80/20 rule, aka the pareto principle, as maxim to live by, and applies it blindly to his every bit of thinking without checking against empirical evidence. In this case it's not even related to what it says, he just applies the ratio as if it means something.

That tells a bit on why he’s been so bad att managing Tw. He might as well have fired all the astro signs he doesn’t think vibes with his; about as scientific.