#Brexit in a picture!

@filmcritic it may be stupid but it's British stupid! God save the King and all of the corgis!

1973 and Beyond!!

@filmcritic all thanks to Brexit champion Nigel Farage. #reallifetroll
@rupercito @filmcritic , right?; And for what? What really was his aim? Was it that he knew that was a way he could make money, or more money? I'm guessing he didn't really believe in the nonsense he was selling.

@toddcraiger @rupercito @filmcritic
His aim was to improve the economy, remember?

Now that he got what he wanted, he has to keep making the economy worse because otherwise, he would have to admit that he was wrong.

@tofugolem @toddcraiger @filmcritic There are those in this world who seem to think burning down the house is the only solution to fixing even the slightest flaws. It doesn't quite go so well if we are all still living in the house.
@rupercito @toddcraiger @filmcritic
I don't follow your metaphor. Which side are you accusing of wanting to burn down the house?
@tofugolem @toddcraiger @filmcritic I was referring to Mr. Farage and the Brexiteers. Rather than modify the already unique relationship the UK had with the EU, there solution was to burn it all down, consequences be damned.
@tofugolem @toddcraiger @filmcritic similar to the MAGA crowd -- "save" America by destroying the very thing that America is built on - democracy

@rupercito @toddcraiger @filmcritic
But I thought the point was to make the UK economy stronger by "freeing" British businesses from the burden of following all those laws and the burden of selling stuff to EU members.

Also, wasn't Brexit supposed to cause the former colonies to start sending free stuff to Britain again?

The Brexiteers were and are making decisions based on a propaganda-fueled fantasy world instead of reality.

Pardon my snark.

@tofugolem @toddcraiger @filmcritic And they know it is a fantasy. That is why it's so evil.

@rupercito @tofugolem @toddcraiger my piece from the Guardian at the time covers my thoughts fully on the matter. (Copied/pasted)

This country (by which I really mean England) is having a kind of collective nervous breakdown which has almost nothing to do with EU power over it. It is rather the result of the following factors: but

Vicious Tory policies which have made the poor pay for the crimes of the super rich. These policies made many people vote in a kind of scatter gun way against the establishment in 2016.

The ever increasing power of the City of London since the time that Britain lost its colonies but instead created a financial web around the world which encouraged every gangster and corrupt dictator to deposit their filthy lucre in its mysterious and arcane trusts. The City has resisted any attempts by the EU to bring these transactions into the light and therefore tax them. It believes in a kind of historic exceptionalism which is unchallenged in the UK.

An absurd and intellectually dishonest media which has been filling people's heads with nonsense about the EU for the past 40 years. Ludicrous stories such as: We will only be able to buy straight bananas, barmaids won't be able to show any cleavage, poppy appeals will have to be taxed, the EU is going to ban loud music in pubs and the Queen was going to be removed form British passports. Consequently when many people try to think clearly about the EU their mental pathways are too often blocked by a foul smelling mush. A kind of fatburg of the mind.

Lastly the deeper issue of an identity crisis. This is a long term problem created by the British empire. As it grew more and more powerful it wiped out many regional and historic cultural identities of the UK and replaced them with an imperialistic national one based on racial superiority and arrogance which were much admired by the Nazis btw. As the empire has declined and faded away those imperial notions have become an embarrassment for most but this has left a cultural void which has not been replaced by any more benign and gentle ideas of nationhood and collective belonging. The result is a semi insane society. Selfish, nationalistic, consumerist and bereft of simple spirituality or a sense of caring for others less fortunate.

The Tories (and Farage) have exploited this cultural vacuum to the hilt and are prime examples of its diseased thinking. The Tories created the referendum to save their own party not the country (and Farage has exploited it for his own ends)and in doing so they have taken the country into a political, economic and cultural crisis that it seems almost impossible to recover from.

@filmcritic @rupercito @toddcraiger
Thanks. That clears a lot up for me.

In a way, I was half-right. 😉

@rupercito @toddcraiger @filmcritic
Are you certain they don't believe their own bullshit?

I'm a big believer in Hanlon's razor: All else being equal, it's not safe to assume malice when stupidity or incompetence is sufficient to explain events.

@tofugolem @toddcraiger @filmcritic I accept I could be giving them the benefit of the doubt. Your suggestion is actually the more frightening..

@rupercito @toddcraiger @filmcritic
The human conundrum:

1. Humans are stupid (yes, including you).
2. Other humans are your best resource for finding out when you're wrong about something.

This is why the human race is doomed.

@tofugolem did you read what I just pasted or ignored it?! Untag me out of this if you’re just going to ignore me on my own thread after I fired up an old HDD U.K. find the dam thing

@filmcritic
Yes, I read it.

The (including you) was not meant to be an insult to you, but an acknowledgement of the human condition and why the stupidity of leaders is both plausible and frightening.

@rupercito @tofugolem @toddcraiger I’ve muted tofu golem so you’re essentially speaking to yourself now as I tried to input my thoughts and got ignored

@filmcritic @rupercito @toddcraiger
You did not get ignored. I was responding to your "Your suggestion is actually the more frightening" comment, and you took the response as an attack on yourself rather than a comment about why leaders are frightening.

I was agreeing with you.

@filmcritic - brilliant and true and yet so devastating - as William Gaddis said - “Stupidity is the deliberate cultivation of ignorance.” And there’s a word for it at a very sinister level - Agnotology.
@filmcritic Exactly@ #Brexit is really a saddening process. I love Britain, I have very good friends there. They are #remainers as well and feel very sorry for their country isolating from the #EU
@filmcritic
Stupidest thing we’ve ever done!
@filmcritic I was living in the UK the year it voted Br*xit. Super sigh. I'm no economist (I'm a PhD WWI literature/history/culture) but even I could see this.
@[email protected]'t Jeremy Grantham get a charge out of this image! Great one! Thanks.
@filmcritic Close but not quite - the cart isn’t on fire and they’re not falling off a cliff into a pit of scorpions.

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Ah yes, the vaunted wheel of the people 😜

@Eyckelenburgher @filmcritic

Hmmm...ME grocery carts some times look like this too,

It can be hawrd to ensure the proper Tech has a "Round" wheel to propel US forward...eh?
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