Nation.CymruNov 16, 2022
The English name of Snowdon for Wales’ highest peak will be replaced by the Welsh name of Yr Wyddfa, following a vote today
https://nation.cymru/news/yr-wyddfa-snowdon-to-be-known-by-welsh-name-from-now-on-after-national-park-vote/
Yr Wyddfa: Snowdon to be known by Welsh name from now on after national park vote

The English name of Snowdon for Wales’ highest mountain will be replaced by the Welsh name of Yr Wyddfa, following a vote today. Snowdonia National Park Authority committee members voted to use the Welsh names of Eryri (Snowdonia) and Yr Wyddfa (Snowdon) in both Welsh and English contexts.  A five thousand-strong petition calling on the […]

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Show threadMatthewNov 16, 2022

@NationCymru Congratulations!

(Anybody with a guide to help an Englishman learn how to pronounce the proper name? 😊)

Show threadjaz  Nov 16, 2022

@picard @NationCymru for me it's

'ere with vah

And pop one trill on the end of ere

Show threadGraham Skeats #FBPPR🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇦Nov 16, 2022
@jaz @picard @NationCymru see, I'd go for Urr oy th va but I'm not a phoneticist and there's no telling how an English speaker will pronounce anything 🤣
Show threadMatthewNov 16, 2022
@GrahamSkeats @jaz @NationCymru
Every letter does have about five different ways to be pronounced in English, to be fair 
Show threadGraham Skeats #FBPPR🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇦Nov 16, 2022
@picard @jaz @NationCymru trick is to remember that y and w are vowels so use a good vowelly sound, dd = th as in the, f=f as in of and ff =ff as in off. See, the last two are a doddle 😁
Show threadGussetsNov 17, 2022

@GrahamSkeats @picard @jaz @NationCymru

I'm still trying to get my head round the pronunciation of Amwythig (Shrewsbury).

Show threadGraham Skeats #FBPPR🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇦Nov 17, 2022
@Gussets @picard @jaz @NationCymru Some people will tell you Shrowsbury, some will say Shroosbury and some will say Shoosbury. Which is why Amwythig (approximately Am oy thig) is better
Show threadLong StarbirdNov 17, 2022
@GrahamSkeats @Gussets @picard @jaz @NationCymru
As a monoglot I often get perplexed by "wy" as it's one of the few occasions where there seems to be ambiguity. I live on "Gwydr Crescent" and whether you pronounce that "Goyder", "Gwidder" or "Gwaider", the taxi driver will ALWAYS correct you! :-) I always go for "oy" but clearly even some Cymraeg speakers disagree.
Show threadGraham Skeats #FBPPR🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇦Nov 17, 2022
@sourdust @Gussets @picard @jaz @NationCymru I think it's fair to say that there are variations in Welsh pronunciation as there are in English. I'm always amused by the thought of geordies going around shouting "eggs" at each other. (hope that doesn't over-tax your Welsh vocab!)
Show threadLong StarbirdNov 17, 2022
@GrahamSkeats @Gussets @picard @jaz @NationCymru
True enough, but it's often pointed out that Welsh pronunciation is easy to learn because its so consistent. Obviously that's true in comparison to English, but not 100% true nonetheless!
Show threadSiaronJNov 18, 2022
@sourdust
As far as consonants go, it is consistent and that's also true for most of the vowels (y is the exception), but dipthongs always seem to have a life of their own, especially 'wy'!
Show threadLong StarbirdNov 19, 2022
@siaronj Quite so. Nearby we have "Dillwyn St" which I'm fairly confident should be "Dill-oyn" but I doubt anyone would know where you meant, it's "Dil-win". But again I think that's a proper noun, so all bets are off. After all, our most famous son, Dylan Thomas, would get quite shirty if you pronounced his name "correctly". 🙂
Show threadSiaronJ
@sourdust The 'wy' dilema is something I'm very familiar with - I come from Trefynwy (Tre-vun-wee/Tre-vun-oy) with sits on the rivers Gwy (Gwee/Goy) and Mynwy (Mun-wee/Mun-oy) in Sir Fynwy (Seer Vun-wee/Seer Vun-oy)🥴
Nov 19, 2022 at 12:58pmWeb