Stephanie Lamy

Just gave my two cents worth on #Ukraine's #Zelensky's communication misstep re: missile killing civilians in #Poland, on the Belgian channel LN24.

Quick summary:
-Not the 1st time that he's blundered (Snake Island). Our support did not diminish after. #KeepCalm
-This is not #disinformation, but misinfo (intent + inquiry still ongoing).
-#Putin seeks every opportunity to discredit #Ukraine, so their reaction is not surprising.
-Let's not forget who attacks whom. (#Russia is the aggressor)

Nov 17, 2022 at 4:51pmWeb
Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022

Also: Since the beginning of #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine, the Kremlin deploys various tactics that align with the #AbuserStrategy pillars:
1. isolate victim from support system
2. discredit victim & support system
3. reverse victim / offender
4. terrorize (coercion)
5. guarantee impunity (courts public opinion / justice)

#Zelensky's misstep is a perfect opportunity for the #Kremlin to pounce on pillars 1, 2, 3 in order to justify 4 and 5

Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022

Also: When there is an uncertainty, it's like 2 antinomic "truths" coexist : #Russia's missile or #Ukraine's?

I like to use #SchrödingersCat thought experiment in those cases.

The question is not what is true or not, but who is legitimate in stating the truth. The guy who opens the box.

In this case, it's the enquiry that is legitimate to state the "truth".

#Poland

Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022

(Also: looking forward to the usual lot of #Schrödinger purists explaining that I'm holding the thought experiment wrong... but... what if.... two different and antinomic thought experiments coexist... )

#inception

Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022
Why #abuserstrategy ?
Because the Kremlin's goal is to legimize the war of aggression, therefore change the norms & terms of what violence is admissible -> illiberal norm promotion.
#Ukraine
Show threaddragonfrogNov 17, 2022
@stephlamy
I am perhaps being tinfoil hat-y, but I think the fact that the missile landed due north of a freight rail yard in Lviv, and due west of a bridge in Kyiv, is suggestive of a Russian missile strike. A clerical error by a Russian soldier entering target coordinates from a list of targets - read the latitude from row 1, the longitude from row 2 - and you get exactly that missile strike in Poland.
Show threaddragonfrogNov 17, 2022
@stephlamy
Given that NATO countries very much don't want to enter WWIII, and the Russians were blustering and denying everything (meaning there was no apology NATO could accept) - could it be Zelensky's blunder was not being wrong, but speaking a truth whose acknowledgement would be dangerous?
Show threaddragonfrogNov 17, 2022

@stephlamy
Not just any rail yard either - the rail yard that would bring damaged fighter jets to the state aircraft repair facility.

If that was indeed the target, this aerial photo shows the yard of the facility that would potentially have been cut off from rail transport.

Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022
@dragonfrog This is the third time you are ignoring what I'm saying.
I do not want my attention manipulated to look at XXX on some satellite image. I would like to know what the enquiry says. Thank and have a good evening.
Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022
@dragonfrog Again, any speculation at this time is pointless. People need to learn how to wait for a legitimate voice to pronounce if the cat is dead or alive :)))))
Show threadStephanie LamyNov 17, 2022
@dragonfrog
Hi!
If you read my thread, I specifically explain why the only legitimate voice should be that of the enquiry.
Yours, Zelensky's or any other is not legitimate at this point & any speculation only adds to the confusion.
And I know that in a time of instant answers, waiting might be tricky ;)