Jerry LevineEntirely possible that based on @pluralistic’s posts that I’m going to get a @framework / Framework Computer (https://frame.work/ )to teach my 9yo how to build a laptop and make his own (I think we’ll stick with Windows over Linux, though, if that’s okay).
once was@jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework Finally. I love this. I have done more than most people on laptops - replacing HDD and ram and screens, n wireless cards. I run old software cuz I'm poor and honestly hate the newest versions - no macs in this house - of windows. I might get one someday, but I already have two laptops and a desktop rig that I built. so I'm good for now
The Nerdy Mel@onceitwas @jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework
Repair is a radical act! Keep keeping those old laptops out of the trash heap!
Also, as another laptop fixer who sometimes pays their bills by being willing to be more patient with a mac than a lot of mac people (and some non-mac engineers, lol), keep keeping them out. The new m2s are basically just ipads and the coming repair cycle is going to be sad when orgs have to toss a near-brand-new machine for the first time.
@TheNerdyMel @jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework
yes the planned obsolesce is horrible. I don't do mac or any apple products because I see it as a less ethical company than a lot of the other smaller co. also I hate wasting money on style. nope give me substance.
yes the planned obsolesce is horrible. I don't do mac or any apple products because I see it as a less ethical company than a lot of the other smaller co. also I hate wasting money on style. nope give me substance.
@onceitwas @jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework
Mac is still so weirdly ubiquitous for art people. There are art folks who agree with you, but feel trapped because this is the ecosystem they understand.
So, I take a lot of pride and pleasure in being able to extend the life of donated macs and iPads for an art center. And sometimes I get to make a little money when a design company can't afford to just buy new macs to make everything work faster this time.
@TheNerdyMel @jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework
I think its because in the late 80s the only machines that could run programs like Photoshop I were MACs Adobe took a few years to publish for PC Microsoft. By then all the graphic designers and Art schools had heavily invested in MACs and it was the norm so it stuck. I worked on PHotoshop I on Macs back in the late 80s is how I know this.
I think its because in the late 80s the only machines that could run programs like Photoshop I were MACs Adobe took a few years to publish for PC Microsoft. By then all the graphic designers and Art schools had heavily invested in MACs and it was the norm so it stuck. I worked on PHotoshop I on Macs back in the late 80s is how I know this.
@onceitwas @jerrylevine @pluralistic @framework
Agreed. People think about Adobe and Mac as going hand in hand, even though that was such a short time. And they've had several fights since then (think Flash). And it's been forever since Apple made a good computer for video/animation users.
My other half was on the bleeding edge of PC-Photoshop use in high school and college. We got side-eye for running AE on a PC in 2010. We were like, let me show you how I spent $3K to build a $17K mac.
mackenzian@TheNerdyMel Hi! Didn't want to interrupt the whole thread but was inspired by your comments on the thread about computer repair. I have a laptop morgue in my house; I haven't thrown any out (but more for security reasons than for repair ones).
How did you learn to repair drives and boards? The most I have done on my machines so far is replace keyboards and batteries and deep-clean.
@mackenzian I do parts swaps, rather than trying to repair the components on a board (i would need so much more solder practice, and for some boards specialized equipment).
I learned by googling the names of things and the problems and just reading a lot and watching videos. It's always good idea to check if iFixit has a teardown guide.
If you've swapped keyboards and batteries, then you're most of the way there-- brave enough to take it apart and persistent enough to put it back together.
@mackenzian There are a lot of repair-centric YouTube channels out there to follow. Louis Rossman has worked super hard for Right to Repair and his older videos were just him answering chat questions while he fixed stuff. The videos from when he got his board repair microscope table are really interesting if board repair is something you'd like to learn. I would guess there are better specialists, but I don't know them.
@TheNerdyMel Thank you so much! I will look Rossman up; sounds familiar and I wonder if I might have already come across him via Onewheel folks also lobbying for a right to repair.
Thanks for taking the time to respond; have a good weekend.
@mackenzian Yes, that's very possible you've come across Rossman if you've been paying attention to any sector of Right to Repair. Good luck in your repair journey!
I'm glad I happened to have the time to talk today. Giving old electronics new life and new value is one of the things I'm really passionate about.