SmittyHalibutNov 7, 2022

I see a lot of people talking about how Mastodon "Feels like the Internet I remember from 20 years ago."

That's no accident. That's Federation. That's UseNet, IRC, Email, Message Boards, etc. What do they all have in common?

Federation: Users congregating around watering holes of common interest, but still being a part of a larger whole.

THIS IS HOW THE INTERNET WAS DESIGNED TO BE. And I am HERE for it.

Show threadjohn mizerek 🤡Nov 7, 2022
@smitty the real web 3.0
Show threadSmittyHalibutNov 7, 2022
@john the same as Web 1.0? :-)
Show threadyoshirNov 8, 2022
@smitty
I feel it's bad to equate monolith sites to web 2.0
Yes, 2.0 may enabled them, but I feel like there was a period of time where it wasn't burdened by such cancer.
@john
Show threadjohn mizerek 🤡Nov 8, 2022
@yoshir @smitty i'm not equating the site itself, i'm referring more to the distributed nature of masto. web 3 should be distributed.
Show threadSmittyHalibutNov 8, 2022
@john @yoshir web3 has nothing to do with the actual web. It’s a bullshit term made up by blockchain bros trying to legitimize the tech they’ve invested so much time and money into after they realized how much hype it actually was. “The web” meaning HTTP delivery of HTML, with dynamic elements added in “web 2”, does not need or benefit from block chain tech at all. Certain applications implemented on the web might use it, but that’s irrelevant.
Show threadjohn mizerek 🤡Nov 8, 2022

@smitty @yoshir just because crypto hijacked the term doesn't mean it's not allowed to be used.

decentralized != blockchain

i don't think i referred to either crypto or blockchain at any point in this thread.

Show threadSmittyHalibutNov 8, 2022
@john @yoshir true, but web3 is a term used by blockchain proponents to describe some sort of ledger based distribution of mumble mumble secure mumble unfakable mumble whatever. I’m not accusing you of this, I’m accusing the term “web3” of this.
Show threadjohn mizerek 🤡Nov 8, 2022

@smitty @yoshir if you reply to anyone that ever mentions the term you're going to put off a lot of people. i was trying to have an intellectual discussion and you #twittered me, man.

web1 was #distributed but it was really nothing more than a closed network that just had a couple #protocols attached to it, primarily to share resources and words across uni/gov locations.

web2 brought us http but it's still relatively closed; there's a small handful of gatekeepers.

#web3 is distributed web1.

Show threadKodaNov 9, 2022

@john @smitty @yoshir

Incorrect. I don't know what you mean by "http" but it was there ever since the Web existed. Also, I believe you are confusing the Web with the Internet. This is a more correct explanation of Web 1, 2, and 3.

Web 1: Hypertext Markup
Web 2: Asynchronous JS
Web 3: Distributed Public Ledger

Show threadyoshirNov 12, 2022
@zaskoda
I thought that you don't need JS for web 2.0, just site being dynamic, instead of just static pages that you check once and then forget.
Show threadKoda
@yoshir JS is the scripting language used to make a web page dynamic.
Nov 12, 2022 at 6:19pmMastodon for Android
Show threadyoshirNov 12, 2022
@zaskoda
Youtube could function on raw html5 without js and it still would be web 2.0