Until now I hadn’t appreciated that were very serious structural problems at Twitter. I thought Elon would make it messy, but it would robustly continue. This below, however, is starting to make me much more concerned.

I came across to Mastodon out of curiosity, fun, sense of opportunity & respect for the concept. Now I’m thinking it’s a vital hedge for us all against serious Twitter risks, including collapse.

@mikegalsworthy and the speed at which it’s happening is stunning.
@stevemundey I hope Twitter survives. It's somewhere for the angry people, the mad fascists and the conspiracy theorists to live and not follow us here.
@Lauretz @stevemundey i'd rather see them go to fedi and try to host their own instances

then promptly fall into perfectionism and bad faith virtue signalling and infighting as they fragment in fediblocking each other (after having been fediblocked by everyone else) and become as weak as the left without any of the mindset that lets the left survive stuff like this

@Lauretz @stevemundey in fairness it's also a phenomenal social hub for disabled people, and the turf in which a lot of essential grassroots activism grows!

Anyway they'll all come here when it folds, so brace yourself. 😂

@mikegalsworthy 100% agree about twitter and tend to agree about Mastodon. But I'm increasingly mindful about what it means for Mastodon regulars and long-timers, especially after reading this. Nothing feels ideal at the minute. https://mastodon.green/@davidallengreen/109319332951348370
davidallengreen (@[email protected])

This is a thoughtful and thought-provoking meditation on what the recent mass migration here looked like from the perspective of those who had been on Mastodon for some time. Please read it, especially if you want to take this new (for you) platform seriously. https://www.hughrundle.net/home-invasion/

Mastodon.green
@mikegalsworthy The top security guys have resigned and security has been pushed down to the developers.
@mikegalsworthy it will take a decade to repay just the interests of the loans Musk took. Twitter has its days numbered
@mikegalsworthy I tried to implement 2 factor authorisation on twitter last night and I couldn’t - it kept glitching and I then had an automated message telling me to try again in 24 hours. Disconcerting.

@mikegalsworthy Reading today about the shenanigans with 'blue tick' accounts (did Musk even 'get' what they were for) and more executive resignations, it really does look like Twitter is on borrowed time.

It's a different vibe here and I've yet to see a lot of accounts I followed migrate across but I'm already liking the more considered and in-depth threads here. Will it last I wonder?

@mikegalsworthy Mastodon is good but how will it fund itself with a mass migration when/if Twitter crashes?

@DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy The same way as Wikipedia, public donations and donations from wealthy individuals, companies and foundations.

I am more concerned about moderation as it scales up.

@bullivant @DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy

I'm also worried about moderation here, already I've noticed that any discussion of women's rights can get stamped on.
It's all going to depend on different groups/instances, and some could be at the mercy of mods preferences.
I suspect there may be a bit of shuffling around till we find the one we're happy with.

@Gussets @DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy "... I've noticed that any discussion of women's rights can get stamped on..." That's not on. What happened?
@bullivant @DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy
Just a bit of a pile on in a discussion about trans. Nothing too contentious but it's made me veer away from any matter concerning trans or women's rights.
Am a bit fed up of having to protest that I can see both groups have rights, without someone jumping down my throat and accusing me of transphobia, and it does seem that in Twitter there are more open discussions.
I know Twitter has more than it's fair share of faults, but you learn to block, and tbh although I'm no longer on it I will miss it - on there I discovered more about political corruption than I would here irvin other media.
Sorry for the long rant!

@Gussets @DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy Gussets, there are plenty of blocking options here so you should be good there.

In terms of trans issues, I don't know if you are aware that many trans people were early adopters of Mastodon as a safe space because of the reaction they faced on other social media platforms including the other site?

Kindness is important here, so maybe other people thought that you were being a little unkind? I don't know, but maybe? Just throwing it out there.

@bullivant @DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy
I'm always ready to think that someone else might perceive something I've said or written to be unkind.
It's an area where you can be treading on eggshells, and I'm aware that trans are going through what women and gays have also suffered through the centuries.
I just get a bit fed up with some of the outright aggression - from both sides - and like other issues it doesn't seem to be something to be spoken about without someone taking offence.
@DameNotDorries @mikegalsworthy I think it'll be like email. Some people will pay for a commercial service, enthusiasts will run their own, most people will use the server provided by their ISP.
@mikegalsworthy glad I moved to Mastodon then. Thanks Mike
@mikegalsworthy
Appreciate the CW. One of the things I've begun to dislike about the other place, is that I'd go on, hoping to find some friendly chat, and *only* find politics. I'm as political as anyone, but even Churchill didn't live and breathe it!
@mikegalsworthy My guess would be that it’s going to go dark at some point soon then someone like Dorsey may pick it up for a pittance, but the circle no one has been able to square is how to make a profit from it.

@mikegalsworthy Immediate priority for everyone with a Twitter account is to reset your password, if you also use that password on any other site, or service. If Twitter gets hacked, password databases are always a priority target for malicious actors.

Make your password 20 characters or more. Mixture of letters (upper and lowercase), numbers, AND symbols.

@Clarkeeeeee1980 @mikegalsworthy it’s doubtful passwords are stored in plaintext, even with all of twitter’s incompetence on security

@dangerdyke @mikegalsworthy

Fair comment, but the point I'd make in return is that we don't know how Twitter passwords are stored, who has access to the encryption, or what standard of encryption is used.

In short, always better to be safe than sorry, especially when resetting your password is a quick activity to perform.

@Clarkeeeeee1980 @mikegalsworthy they wouldn’t be encrypted they would be hashed. irreversable operation

@dangerdyke @mikegalsworthy Again, fair enough, but even hashing doesn't eliminate risk. Hashing can be cracked.

It all depends on how determined the malicious party is, the tools they have at their disposal, and what they hope to gain.

@mikegalsworthy I left due to the security concerns highlighted here as well as the blue tick carnage & other Musk nonsense. Not that I'll be missed, not exactly a prolific or noted poster with my 96 followers, but I will miss the 500-odd interesting & informative accounts I followed. Hoping I can build back up here - bit fiddly to step up, but so far seems nicer & I like the longer character limit.
@mikegalsworthy I worked with a major internet company that was run on over a million lines of Perl code. None of which was commented. It had been written and modified by many people over many years.
@mikegalsworthy it shows that Elon Musk is not the Messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy
@mikegalsworthy Wow, it's somewhat unbelievable & scary how one man can ruin such a huge structure within days.
@mikegalsworthy I recon Jack Dorsey will buy it back for $1.
@mikegalsworthy
I didn't expect him to mess up this badly!
@mikegalsworthy Twitter collapsing quickly is the good news scenario. The bad news scenario is what Elon does with all the data being harvested from people who installed the app instead of using the mobile browser site. If you clicked agree on that EULA, there's an awful lot of invasiveness potentially coming your way.
@mikegalsworthy Thank you for Excellent content wrapper (CW). Much appreciated!
@mikegalsworthy Will twitter last longer than a lettuce though?
Inside the Twitter meltdown

Elon is speaking. VPs are resigning. Is bankruptcy next?

Platformer

@mikegalsworthy

The brutish behavior shown by Musk to Twitter employees, executives, and users points to his incompetence. Maybe at Tesla & SpaceX, he's got teams that actually know what they're doing?

His acquisition of Twitter was a personal ego thing, w/ no team ready to do the actual work.

Thus, he's trying to rule Twitter by decree (without knowing what really needs to be done), and making an absolute hash of it. Hence the meltdown of the platform.

@mikegalsworthy It is awful and very, very sad. Twitter has been a lifeline for so many people, and it’s been vital for having access to journalists etc. I agree that Mastodon is now much more than “just” a fun place to hang out on.
@mikegalsworthy I offered Musk a quid for it. He ignored me. Suppose I should try again.
@mikegalsworthy I see people on the other place saying they think Musk will have to back down or simply destroy Twitter. I think Twitter was ok mainly but eating itself with horrendous behaviour and penalising the popular with joining fees (I would never have incurred a fee). Its good to have the chance of a reboot.
@mikegalsworthy
Will be sad if it folds but won’t be surprised.
@mikegalsworthy it's different to twitter, but I'm not giving Elon Musk the satisfaction. Give the little guy @Mastodon a chance to shine, and with more users and investment I think it will be worth setting up an account on here 😉
@mikegalsworthy
Hi Mike, agree totally. But I would urge bigger accounts, media, celebrities etc to look seriously into creating (or contracting) their own mastodon instances. It would be unfair, perhaps impossible even to the volunteers that built and pay for the existing mastodon world to be burdened with our costs and admin.
@R1ch1e5 @mikegalsworthy Great call. The mastodon server model maps beautifully to companies having their own servers - although the recent trend for cloud services probably means they don't have in-house IT services any more... which is a pity.
@mikegalsworthy If you wanted to damage public discourse, remove the ability of citizens in countries with oppressive regimes to organise dissent and make it harder for information to circulate quickly and widely, how would you do it?
@Permaconfused By wrecking all the main social media channels...
@mikegalsworthy I can't imagine that would happen... Oh.
@mikegalsworthy
Is it worth shutting down bird accounts for security?
I have endeavoured to keep it firewalled from other stuff, but it does have one of my email addresses attached to the account.
#twitter
#twitterocalypse

@BosunArras @mikegalsworthy if your email address is attached to your Twitter account, it is likely to be “out there” already. I would not bother.

Also, your data would be kept for a while by the company before being anonymised so deleting it now won’t have any sort of impact.

@moystard @mikegalsworthy
Fair enough - it is a single instance read-only address anyway (twitter[at]my.domain - for exactly this reason!).

@mikegalsworthy it’s not structural issues. Twitter took on a huge amount of debt as a result of how the takeover was structured (with Elon using his Tesla shares as collateral).

You can’t fire your key execs on day 1, board on day 2, a huge chunk of employees on day 7, all while pushing for huge unpopular product changes within unrealistic timeframes and with what seems to be no plan, testing or compliance. Any company would fall apart.

@estherlimtf @mikegalsworthy The idea of firing half of your workforce without even doing a minimum on due diligence on who and what functions are keys to his plans is ludicrous… they had to re-hire people the day after they fired them 🤯

@moystard @mikegalsworthy don’t get me started on that one. The opposite of best practice.

Countries have different employee protections and some require a huge lead time to get all the HR/admin/legal stuff done. 🫠

@estherlimtf @mikegalsworthy the cynic watching this from afar also thinks it was a convenient way to get money out of tesla (which is also more hype than car manufacturing)