AnilWhen it came time to reckon with social media’s failings, nobody ran to the “web3” platforms. Nobody asked “can I get paid per message”? Nobody asked about the blockchain. The community of people who’ve been quietly doing this work for years (decades!) ended up being the ones who welcomed everyone over, as always.
Peter Rojas@anildash What I find especially encouraging is that you don't have to be suspicious of the motives of anyone promoting Mastodon (or the fediverse more generally), there isn't some scammy token to pump and dump. It's refreshing.
martinweigert
Les Orchard@martinweigert @PeterR @anildash what "whole thing"? Check and see if your local instance takes donations or sells merch or has a patreon
@lmorchard @PeterR @anildash That works at the current scale. But less likely at 50 million or 100 million users. If Mastodon ever should get there.
@martinweigert @PeterR @anildash The scaling model is to divide all those users up by local instances, and you help fund for those
@martinweigert @PeterR @anildash The idea is there isn't one big "Mastodon" - it's software used by many people to build a network between many people.
Each node in the network is self-funded, in one way or another. Whether out of pocket from the sysop and/or contributions from the users.
If the network of nodes reaches 100 million user scale, it'll be because this worked. Or it won't. It's not a VC-funded growth-at-all-cost company
Strypey@lmorchard
> The idea is there isn't one big "Mastodon" - it's software used by many people to build a network
It's not even the only piece of software used in the fediverse. There's a whole bunch of others, some of them micro-posting services like Mastodon (Pleroma, Misskey), others federating totally different kinds of social media over the same network*, photoblogging (PixelFed), videos (PeerTube), forums (Lemmy), and more.
rcr@strypey @lmorchard @martinweigert @PeterR @anildash I need to ask this now once, though it will make me look like a completely ignorant person - is diaspora part of the fediverse, technically, I mean? Can you link it so your post sent in diaspora reach the fediverse, and is it possible to read post from instances running mastadon in diaspora? I get the impression this is not possible, is that right?
@rcr
Good question. Diaspora only federates over its own protocol. Mastodon only federates over the ActivityPub protocol. So we can't communicate directly with Diaspora users from Mastodon or vice-versa. But because there are fedi apps that speak both protocols (Friendica, Hubzilla, SocialHome), we do count Diaspora as part of the family. In a hermit uncle hiding in the woods eating squirrels kind of way ;)
@strypey @lmorchard @martinweigert @PeterR @anildash Thanks for this clarification. So it seems to get diaspora linked to the fediverse, some effort is needed... I like your analogy!
@rcr
Here's the chief hermit uncle's take on why Diaspora will never implement ActivityPub:
https://discourse.diasporafoundation.org/t/lets-talk-about-activitypub/741
Let's talk about ActivityPub
I wanted to follow up on this Github Issue, in the hopes of furthering useful discussion with the people who presently work on Diaspora. Diaspora has not historically supported using any protocol implementations other than its own. This in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, Diaspora federation has greatly improved since the original core team stepped away because an emphasis has been placed to improve the way federation works. The development of the Diaspora federation gem ...