Richard Van NoordenNov 7, 2022
I see useful toots on this site, and then they fly past and I can never seem to find them again using 'search'. This seems like it will take some adjustments for #journalism and #journalists hoping to use it. Do I just Favourite or Boost everything now?
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@richvn gosh, so much to respond to!

Favouriting doesn't do much here - it won't e.g. increase the likelihood of that toot being seen by others. It just lets the author know you liked it (and others that have stumbled upon the too)

No full-text search is a very intentional part of the design. Full-text search enabled and encouraged harrassment. Each user should do hashtags only if they want to encourage wide conversation. No hashtags enables a more limited/safe discussion

Show threadRichard Van NoordenNov 7, 2022
@rmounce Got it. I'm curious how journalists may adapt to the fediverse which is (by intentional design) a harder-to-track network of public conversations.
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@richvn yeah, i guess 2012-2022 should be seen as the 'golden age' for journalism where journalists could just login to twitter, do a search and have abundant copy for any article or viewpoint of their choosing ;)

I guess journalists will have to be a bit more proactive and ask/approach people for comments again?

[none of this is a dig at you btw. But I think we've all seen on daily basis 'news' stories churned out from tweets, I won't be sad to see that go...]

Show threadRichard Van Noorden
@rmounce oh, sure, there's been lots of cheap, fast churnalism from recycling tiktok, twitter, insta, etc.
But (as a journalist) I'll miss the discoverability of interesting conversations. E.g. A cool research paper comes up, I want to look for commentary on it -- so I can pose the most relevant qns when interviewing the authors, say. If I search for the DOI I can find much of it on twitter, but not so here ... perhaps we'll see new conventions emerge like hashtagged DOIs (?!)
Nov 7, 2022 at 11:07amWeb
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@richvn agree. Full-text search was a double-edge sword. It did good too. Not just enabling harrassment.

hashtagged DOIs? I like it! Might try that out... quite hyperspecific though. A broader discipline based hashtag might bring a wider scope of potential engagement (if desired)

Gonna be fun trying all this stuff in the next few months and years!

Show threadDaniel LakensNov 7, 2022
@richvn @rmounce has tagged DOIs are a really good idea. I think that should be a default.
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@lakens @richvn

testing testing (just to see how it handles slashes)...
https://doi.org/10.1098/rsos.201617

#10.1098/rsos.201617 #JournalImpactFactor #Taxonomy #Zootaxa #Clarivate

Show threadRichard Van NoordenNov 7, 2022
@rmounce @lakens
well that didn't work ... what about
#doi10.1098/rsos.201617
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@lakens @richvn hmmm... that didn't appear to work. Did the slash kill the hashtag?

#Lets/Experiment #Like\This

Show threadRichard Van NoordenNov 7, 2022
@rmounce @lakens slashes *and* dots kill the hashtag it seems! That's gonna make things tricky.
Show threadMike Taylor 🦕Nov 7, 2022
@richvn @rmounce @lakens It's worth filing an issue about this at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues
Show threadRichard Van NoordenNov 7, 2022
@mike @rmounce @lakens https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19992
Show threadMike Taylor 🦕Nov 7, 2022
@richvn @rmounce @lakens Nice. I left a comment boosting the suggestion.
Show threadRoss MounceNov 7, 2022

@lakens @richvn yeah I don't think that's going to be workable. Nice idea though.

It won't just be slashes that break it. Have you seen SICI (Serial Item and Contribution Identifier) DOIs - they have also sorts of horrid/exotic characters in them.