Wow fucking #couchsurfing put up a paywall so you can’t even see any of your past messages or friends without a subscription of 2$ a month, federated couch surfing when?!
couch.stream or couch.secure are both sorta cool domains for a federated alternative
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Meet travellers & find hosts worldwide for free. BeWelcome – for better intercultural understanding.

#BeWelcome is GPL2 and written in PHP
https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox

#TrustRoots is MIT and looks to be in NodeJS
https://github.com/Trustroots/trustroots

#Couchers is also MIT and looks like they are going with Python, TypeScript and React
https://github.com/Couchers-org/couchers

GitHub - BeWelcome/rox: BeWelcome lets you share a place to stay, connect with travellers, meet up and find accommodation on your journey. It is and will always be a free, open source, non for profit, democratic community.

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@onan maybe the first step is to open issues in all three of these projects and propose federation. They may not have ever heard of the idea or know that the #fediverse exists at all.

@liaizon @onan

out of all 3, #Couchers seems to have taken the most effort to fully address the human/community safeguarding issues that plague any service like this (incidentally, I'm not sure if people realise that in many countries the moment they invite someone into their house they incur a formal legal duty of care to look after them and can incur legal penalties if things go wrong...)

#BeWelcome already has an open issue since 2018: https://github.com/BeWelcome/rox/issues/90

#TrustRoots already has an issue as well: https://github.com/Trustroots/trustroots/issues/2287

#OpenHospitalityNetwork already has a fork of Trustroots who is working on adding ActivityPub: https://github.com/OpenHospitalityNetwork/fedi-trustroots/issues

Tagging @weex because I see them in the issues there already

[feature] ActivityPub federation · Issue #90 · BeWelcome/rox

Some community-focused social platforms started adopting a common protocol so users on different platforms and servers can interact with each other. This would most likely be a very big change to t...

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Thanks to a few folks for pointing out the already existing discussion on SocialHub about hospitality exchange (I didn’t know this term before) https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/hospitality-exchange-community-considers-moving-to-the-fediverse/1765
Hospitality exchange community considers moving to the fediverse ;)

I outlined the reasons in my into post Hello from hospitality exchange community devs! The idea is drafted here: https://github.com/mariha/federated-trustroots/discussions/3 I’d like to discuss the idea and possibly get some help in the direction where to go next. In particular, I am not sure if ActivityPub is what we should use to implement our federation. We are not social media platforms. (Photo by Tim Douglas from Pexels)

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And thanks to @humanetech for starting a discussion about this on another part of the fediverse: https://lemmy.ml/post/66076
Brainstorming for Hospitality Exchange Community on the Fediverse - Lemmy

## <a href="https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/hospitality-exchange-community-considers-moving-to-the-fediverse/1765">Hospitality exchange community considers moving to the fediverse</a> …

A random coincidence: someone submitted an article that made it to the front page of hacker news about this issue right before I started posting about this today https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28583583
Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com | Hacker News

@liaizon When I was looking for a new job in 2016, I almost worked for the guy that bought the rights to it, and was trying to bring it back.

I ended up taking a different direction, especially after somebody told me the guy was kind of unhinged. But, I always kind of wondered about what happened to CS.

@sean @liaizon

Please support Mariah, let's federate couchsurfing:

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/hospitality-exchange-community-considers-moving-to-the-fediverse/1765

also
https://github.com/WelcometoMyGarden/welcometomygarden/issues/108

and then it would appear on the sick ActivityPub map I am doing now for redaktor in the other window.
Would be nice if it has an `icon` property with e.g. a couch svg … :)

Hospitality exchange community considers moving to the fediverse ;)

I outlined the reasons in my into post Hello from hospitality exchange community devs! The idea is drafted here: https://github.com/mariha/federated-trustroots/discussions/3 I’d like to discuss the idea and possibly get some help in the direction where to go next. In particular, I am not sure if ActivityPub is what we should use to implement our federation. We are not social media platforms. (Photo by Tim Douglas from Pexels)

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@sl007 @sean thank you Sebastian for posting the link to the SocialHub thread I didn’t think to look there but glad so much already came up over there!
@liaizon can be done now, with existing Mastodon/Fediverse; I've seen the Fedi already being used to find short term and emergency accomodation for people but Fedi could do with either groups or a dedicated app. Might be worth investigating *why* Couchsurfing did this; was it simply for basic running costs or to pay lawyers/PR people following safeguarding failures and criminal cases a few years ago?
@vfrmedia yeah just having an instance devoted to it with some bots that keep track of cities and stuff would go a long way
@vfrmedia @liaizon I added an accommodation ontology to the sharing system in Epicyon recently.

@bob this would do the job (BTW I'm not getting notifications again from your posts, luckily I saw this in the first column).

Is there any way I can see a demo of this sharing system? (I did look on your site but couldn't find it)..

@vfrmedia @bob also didn’t get a notification of this from bob and only see this now that I am looking back at the thread.
@vfrmedia @liaizon From what I understand from the wikipedia article, they tried to run it as a non-profit in the beginning with some financial problems. Then the BDFL turned out to not be benevolent and sold the whole thing to venture capital with predictable consequences.
I think this is mostly a case against having a BDFL
@frainz @vfrmedia putting the D in BDFL

@liaizon @frainz
@Stoori

Bolting it on to the existing Fediverse could work as there is already a global community here who are generally friendly, well behaved, diverse in age, ethnicity, gender/sexuality etc and even with folk being privacy aware they share just enough to ascertain whether they would be trustworthy (all the other services risk creating power imbalances, especially when relative strangers are desperate to find accomodation at short notice)

@liaizon Do you have any experience with http://bewelcome.org/ ?
BeWelcome - Open your door to the world

Meet travellers & find hosts worldwide for free. BeWelcome – for better intercultural understanding.

@frainz I have an account and have lurked but never tried to stay anywhere. Have used couch surfing a ton though.
@liaizon Hm, ok. I never had the guts to really try any of them, but CS always felt too corporate (made an account in 2014, I think). But each time I looked at bewelcome, there were far fewer hosts
@frainz stayed with folks in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan from couch surfing. Was sorta insane how many folks there were on it using it to gain language skills from travelers.
@liaizon Yah... @bigworldsmallsasha did a good blog post about this www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/202… and we too wondered how can a federated such platform look like. I think this is where that discussion happens github.com/OpenHospitalityNetw…
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@bigworldsmallsasha @tio thanks for the article, it’s funny even there people are thinking about the federated potential in the comments. Mentions of #matrix and #activitypub. It’s incredible to me to think of how many areas of the internet would be better served if federated protocols became standard practice
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@bigworldsmallsasha @liaizon very cool website will have a closer look. thanks!
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