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John GoerzenAnyone else seeing this? I made a comment that included "joinmastodon.org" and got this from Facebook.
For clarity, this is a followup to an earlier post about my article of #Facebook censoring mentions of #Mastodon : https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10285-facebook-censored-me-for-mentioning-open-source-social-network-mastodon
Aral Balkan@jgoerzen I think that’s called Facebook are assholes.
@aral Well yes. But a ton of people haven't gotten that message yet, and of those that have, few know what to do about it. I run a mask & vaccine supporters group on Facebook that has been reasonably effective locally, and I'd be surprised if any of the people in it are on Mastodon (or, for that matter, even Twitter). Though this issue piqued the interest of a couple of them.
sirjofri@jgoerzen maybe many people used that URL and it reached a limit where facebook counts it as spam?
Markus Mann@jgoerzen Oh! What an honor! Facebook recognizes Mastodon an the Fediverse as a threat. They obviously still can remember what happened to MySpace...
[moved] Floppy 💾
Stéphane Bortzmeyer@jgoerzen Each time there is "community" in a sentence, you can be reasonably sure it translates to "a person or group of persons decide they know better than you what is good for you".
Joxean Koret (@matalaz)@jgoerzen Verified on my end right now: you cannot link to it.
@joxean Thank you. It seems to be country-specific also.
xrvs
Huy Ngo :python: :copyleft: (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Facebook is scared of alternative platforms
A. Square@jgoerzen in late 2020 I posted something about federated networks and included (in a comment) instructions on how to join a mastodon server. Last week FB finally got around to censoring that, allegedly for "violating community guidelines" regarding "disinformation".
التنينوكس@jgoerzen So this means we can't tell facebook users about mastodon? Do they fear an exodus?
Claudio Maradonna 
@jgoerzen
Twitter suspended me forever for The same URL. So i switched definitely on mastodon
Twitter suspended me forever for The same URL. So i switched definitely on mastodon
@penguyman Ouch. I would definitely like to know more about this story. Do you have screenshots anywhere?
@jgoerzen
https://mobile.twitter.com/UnitooInc
After ban you should contact customer care, but if they do not answer for over 30 days, you cannot restore the account anymore. This is a twitter rule.
https://help.twitter.com/it/forms/account-access/reactivate-my-account/help-reactivating-my-account
Giordano 
@jgoerzen With a URL shortener you can probably circumvent this check.
@giordanoscarso True. It is trivially easy to work around. My point wasn't so much that they were aggrieving *ME* - the post they removed was months old, after all - but that they were censoring the community.
@jgoerzen I've wrote the message mainly thinking how to solve the problem technically. Unfortunately it made me look like a know-it-all person.
But I agree with you, it is really creepy how they are censoring Mastodon, considering how small its current user base is.
But if I understood correctly they are retroactively removing every reference to Mastodon. That's crazy.
But I agree with you, it is really creepy how they are censoring Mastodon, considering how small its current user base is.
But if I understood correctly they are retroactively removing every reference to Mastodon. That's crazy.
@giordanoscarso Yes indeed. That is pretty troubling. Thank you.
Karl Voit 
@jgoerzen Reminds me of https://theoatmeal.com/comics/reaching_people_2021
@publicvoit Depressingly on point. There is a lot about the "modern" Internet that isn't so great.
Kicou@jgoerzen I don't have Facebook (nor do I have Twitter), but if this is true, then it is a sign that they are taking notice and are afraid.
@kicou They have basically bought out tons of competitors for purposes of killing them. Can't do that with Mastodon.
David Bremner@jgoerzen Interesting. So Andrew Lee of freenode (insanity) fame and facebook are using the same definition of spam.
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Exa 
@jgoerzen This seems to be a recent change: https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10285-facebook-censored-me-for-mentioning-open-source-social-network-mastodon
Hank G@Exagone313 @jgoerzen I reshared that too. The funny thing is that Twitter isn't even a threat to FB's dominance and all of the Fediverse combined is fraction of Twitter. Yet this is what FB does because they are malignant monopolistic tumor on the entire planet.
@Exagone313 Yes. That is my article about it 🙂
@jgoerzen Ah, you are right.
@jgoerzen I didn't check when I followed you, but I already had your blog in my RSS aggregator 😀
@Exagone313 No worries, I've done the same from time to time 🙂
Spark Purcell (they/them)@Exagone313 @jgoerzen i've been trying to promote fedi on fb for years. They didn't block me but they did make my post nearly invisible.
@Exagone313 @jgoerzen prob works best if you don't link to huge instances that have sponsors and lax moderation...
@ailurocrat @Exagone313 I strongly suspect they did this to my original post back in November also, but I have no way to prove it.
Jonathan Lamothe@jgoerzen I had a similar issue when I made a post about Diaspora.
cb7f604332cf39@John Goerzen you found the fence - of facebook ringfenced garden.
Including automated processing of messages.
Including automated processing of messages.
artcinco@jgoerzen It’s afraid.
nilix@jgoerzen This is new as of the past couple weeks - I made a post on my bluesite account about alternate methods to contact me including a link to joinmastodon.org and my profile here, and it posted.
It's so sad.. people would rather be mindlessly entertained than actually have legit, minimally mediated communications with each other.
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davidak@jgoerzen that practice should be illegal in germany. there is no such thing as a "householder's rights" for big platforms. they have to follow the law of free speech. it is legal to post such links, so they are not allowed to delete them
@Freiheitsrechte @digitalcourage könntet ihr eine klage organisieren, damit sowas aufhört? kartellrecht mit hoher strafe wäre nice
herr Steinhöfel könnte ein guter anwalt dafür sein
[G.R.K.]🌈🏳️⚧️Ⓐ💣¡NoPasarán!#FuckFediverse ! (Zuckie Sucker)
Crylo, the Martyr@jgoerzen surprise surprise
moved to => @because they want you to use pleroma or misskey
burningbecks@jgoerzen Posted that Link on 2020-03-08, still there.
Can't tell how much range it had, but at least two reactions came in the immediate aftermath.
Can't tell how much range it had, but at least two reactions came in the immediate aftermath.
@burningbecks Thank you. Are you posting from Germany? I wonder if that has some relevance.
@jgoerzen Yes, I am.
Can't tell if it has relevance regarding Mastodon, but the FB „Spam Detector“ was generally running amok since summer. (Could be because of the elections?)
Can't tell if it has relevance regarding Mastodon, but the FB „Spam Detector“ was generally running amok since summer. (Could be because of the elections?)
Magos Logis LoganNice. It is inconsistent on blocking based on country of the user. That is hopefully going to come up in court, next time Facebook is called in.
The Doctor@jgoerzen Yup. Got suspended for a week for posting a link to my Friendly Guide to the Fediverse last year.
@jgoerzen I kind of expect this sort of thing from Facebook now. And the fact they're blocking Mastodon means that it is getting big enough that it's taking some attention away from them.
Nikita Karamov@jgoerzen I've had my post not accepted when I was leaving Facebook and wanted to post a link to my Fosstodon profile ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
deutrino@jgoerzen interesting, I posted that URL to a page many months ago and it just got flagged in the past week