Asking LGBTQ+ people only:

What's your view of the word "queer" in the context of describing LGBTQ+ people?

Boosts appreciated for sample size :)

Positive
71.3%
Neutral
18.5%
Negative
3.9%
Unsure
6.3%
Poll ended at .
@delve oh shoot i accidentally voted. Sorry 😳
@jeff It's okay. One bad vote probably shouldn't affect the end results too much. Polls are never perfect anyway.

@jeff @delve same here, I've overseen one word!

OK, LGBTQ+ is a little bit complicated.
Also the variation LGBTQI

@delve

I love it for myself even though sometimes it's hard for me to claim it because my experience of it is so subtle. I wouldn't use it for someone else unless I know they use it for themselves, because I know that for many people it was never reclaimed and sometimes still hurts.

I think it's reclamation is beautiful and should keep happening.

@Phoenix_Borealis @delve yeah this is my opinion. i love to describe myself as that and occasionally ill say it to cover the WHOLE of 2slgbtqia but i wont refer to a specific person as that, and ill stop using it as a descriptor if someone is uncomfortable (not for myself but id cut back on stating that around them)
@delve
When I was a boy, there wasn't even a word; not really. But I was seen as insufficiently masculine, so others would take me behind the gym building and shout, literally shout, "why are you such a fem?!"

I was tough enough that I could have simply beat their faces in. But I didn't want to hurt others and so I was a "fem". My advice to others today is, come what may, beat them to a pulp. Pacificism is for "fems". Fight.

I'm not "LGBTQ+" but "queerment" is endearment. Stand proud.
@delve While I don't deny that queer has been used as a slur, for me it's a short hand way for me to describe myself as 'not straight'. Which is really helpful if I don't feel like explaining what pansexual, demisexual, and demigirl are.

@delve I voted "neutral", but more specifically: I like using the word for myself. However, I'd say overall use of the word is based on context.

Within the community, it's positive (as long as used when you know the other party is "okay" with the word) From outside the community, it can come across as negative. 

@delve I think there is an element of generational difference. I think older people often had it used as a slur against us. I think younger people are more okay with it. But don't assume that everyone is okay with it, or has reclaimed it. I think it's a more in your face term, like middle finger to the establishment. Again, I could be showing my age (mid 50's).

@delve Follow up #poll for us only:

Which do you think is more inclusive?

LGBTQIAAAA+
4.7%
queer
39.5%
both the same
14%
show results
41.9%
Poll ended at .
@PaulaToThePeople I would actually claim that the "queer" is more inclusive than any acronym that explicitly lists labels and then just puts an "everything else" symbol at the end. Similar to how I prefer the original rainbow flag (maybe with that one extra stripe too) over the "new" pride flag which, by explicitly including certain pride flags, feels exclusive for those not represented.
@delve 6 hours in the fucking Sunday morning.
Too early for exact thinking.
I've overseen the first »Asking LGBTQ+ people only:«
And important, that »only«
So, I've made a voting, and be not Your target group, because I'm approx 98% straight,
but I respect queer people *(gn)

@alm10965 Haha, it's alright. See what I said here: https://deadinsi.de/@delve/106677680591922646

And good night, yourself!

delve (@[email protected])

@[email protected] It's okay. One bad vote probably shouldn't affect the end results too much. Polls are never perfect anyway.

deadinsi.de
@delve I like the idea of reclaiming slurs and "queer" is easier to say in conversation than "LGBT+"
@delve I acknowledge that a subset of the LGBTQIA+ community, especially older generations who were more likely to have been around when it was regularly used as a slur, still see it as a negative term, and that makes sense, as undoing those negative connotations can be hard, but I also think it's worth reclaiming by anyone who has capacity to do so. L
Not to mention that it's a nice approximate shorthand, in lieu of "rainbow community" or "LGBTQIA+ community"
@delve I love the label queer especially because transphobic gatekeepers tend to hate it. They want to be able to sort the "acceptable" lgbtqia+ individuals (generally, cis) from the "unacceptable" (generally, trans) and *fuck that*.

@delve

I'm not a native English speaker

I'm a cis gay man

Am I queer ? I'm not sure

As far as I understand, queer is a superset of "gay"

So, yes, I'm gay and that makes me queer too

But I'm not sure about this, I may be wrong, as far as I know

@abbienormal Cis gay men would fall under the umbrella of "queer," yes. "Queer" generally means anyone who isn't cisgender-heterosexual. It can also sometimes be used to refer to gender non-conforming folks, like crossdressers or drag queens, but not always.

@delve when i was growing up, “gay” was what you called people who were bad at call of duty, or posted in the comments of youtube videos you didn't like. in addition to its positive meanings, it was a slur and people used it as a slur.

as a matter of fact, pretty much *every* term used to describe LGBTQ people has also been used as either a slur or a pathology at some point in time, and generally through to the present day.

why is “queer” always treated as if it were unique in this respect? you could just as easily ask people's opinions on describing gay women with the word “lesbian”

@delve i see it as positive! it used to be derogatory but now it's used to celebrate our differnces and uniqueness 
@delve I'm not strongly identifying with one single label on the LGBTQIA+ spectrum but weakly with multiple, so queer is the only label I can realistically give myself without launching into an explanation
@delve depending on the time, who says it and how i suppose..
@delve This poll does not account for the history of the word. Queer is positive *because* it is negative. People were dying and the word was reclaimed as a way of saying "fuck you, I'm your worst nightmare. I do not want you to accept me into your world, I will build my own world made of things you despise."
@delve hmm, I voted already, but now I’m wondering about the difference between being described and self-description
@delve I use it for myself and with friends and other people online that dont mind using it.
I'm aware of the history behind it but I definitely think its the lingual and cultural disassociation (am croatian) that makes me more 'easy-going' with it.
Noone ever called me a queer because we just dont have the word for it nor anything close to its broad implication in my language.
@delve are polyam people included in that "+"?
@11backslashes Honestly, after thinking it over a little, I'm really not sure. I don't want to be exclusionary, but I'm also hesitant to say that a cishet man or woman could be considered LGBTQ+ because they have multiple partners. It is "queer" in the sense of "unusual," given that monogamy is the societal norm. But is it LGBTQ+? I'm gonna guess no, but I could see an argument the other way being made.
@delve I like it but am of the 80's kid generation that had to do a bit of reclamation.
@delve I don't use it myself because it sounds really old fashioned to me, but I don't mind other people using it and will use it in reference to them if I know it's their preferred term. :D
@delve when I was younger, “gay” was a disparaging word. I don’t see anyone going around saying we shouldn’t use it. That said, queer as a slur was never used against me. I’ve only ever heard it in the context of a positive descriptor of the community or in this type of discourse.
@delve inside or outside the community?
@delve 80s kid. Queer theory, culture, and theology saved my life. There's nothing natural about the European Christian heterosexual nuclear family. We need a cultural movement willing to unpack that and put non-straight voices first.