toxicodendron radicans
When you think about it, calling them TERFs is giving them way more credit than they deserve. They're actively antifeminist, and upholding well established, outdated gender norms is probably the least radical thing you can do.
Aug 21, 2020 at 11:09amWeb
Show threadAlex Daily! Aug 21, 2020

@InvaderXan I've always liked the alternative of

Feminism-
Appropriating
Reactionary
Transphobes

or, "FART."

Show threadtoxicodendron radicansAug 21, 2020
@Alexis That's certainly a better fit
Show threadEmAug 21, 2020
@Alexis @InvaderXan considering I just saw a TERF that determined femininity based on one's pooping habits, this is an accurate acronym
Show threadAlex Daily! Aug 21, 2020
@GreenandBlack @InvaderXan Honestly, if TERFism (FARTism?) wasn't so harmful and, well, shit, it might all be very funny.
Show threadtoxicodendron radicansAug 21, 2020
@GreenandBlack @Alexis Wow, just when I thought I couldn't be more appalled by their ridiculous beliefs 🤨
Show threadStroomAfwaarts 🌱Aug 21, 2020
@GreenandBlack @Alexis @InvaderXan
how is pooping feminine or masculine??
Show threadAlex Daily! Aug 21, 2020
@StroomAfwaarts @GreenandBlack @InvaderXan This would probably have been someone else, but I've definitely seen idiots argue that "women don't poop at home," or "women don't poop around their husbands," that kind of archaic nonsense. It's not hard to extrapolate that into something horrible.
Show threadStroomAfwaarts 🌱Aug 21, 2020
@Alexis @GreenandBlack @InvaderXan
wow. I poop with the door open, so I can keep talking.
the only pooping-while-feminine thing I've heard is the concern of feminine people that they poop while giving birth.
don't know any masculines who worry about that, but maybe they do to.
Show threadmaloki 🍍Aug 21, 2020
@InvaderXan I just keep getting told that that's not what this radical means and I'm like 🤷‍♀️🤦
Show threadtoxicodendron radicansAug 21, 2020
@maloki I am curious about why they believe upholding the patriarchy is radical. But I find it hard to actually talk to them without retching, so I guess this will remain a mystery to me!
Show threadmaloki 🍍Aug 21, 2020

@InvaderXan there's some other weird definition of radical, but I can't for the life of me remember what.

But disregarding that, they are neither radical nor feminist and it shows. 😅

Show threadtoxicodendron radicansAug 21, 2020

@maloki "Pertaining to the basic or intrinsic nature of something" perhaps. Though that's ironic too, considering their ideas of the intrinsic nature of sex and gender are literally all social constructs.

Yeah. It *really* shows.

Show threadRose [it/its]Aug 21, 2020

@InvaderXan
While i absolutely agree, our understanding is that the "radical" in radical feminism refers to "the root of" bc they think the root cause of all of the world's ills is patriarchy, rather than it being like. Actually radical.

Which, even if they weren't frequently awful (esp the transmisic ones) is just straight-up inaccurate anyway

Show threadtoxicodendron radicansAug 21, 2020

@certifiedperson It's also, let's be honest, quite a contortion of the way language works. If terminology requires this much explanation, it's shitty terminology 😂

Also, declaring that patriarchy is the problem and then actively upholding it with transphobic fake "biology" feels like it should take some high level mental gymnastics.

Show threadStroomAfwaarts 🌱Aug 21, 2020
@InvaderXan @certifiedperson
patriarchy, as a system of oppressing anything other than the top dogs in society, is the problem.
it's just that most feminists don't see that, or don't want to know it, in the case of terfs and farts.
Show threadStroomAfwaarts 🌱Aug 21, 2020

@InvaderXan
my modern, hip, feminist aunt: "I think every modern woman should have a vibrator in her night stand"
me, 14: "I think every modern woman should decide for herself what she has in her night stand".

nothing has changed much in those years. Lots of "feminists" still want to prescribe other people's actions and attitudes.
I think feminism is about freedom and choices. If you want to marry and be a stay at home mom for eight children, that should be okay. as long as it's your own choice, informed or emotional.