Such relate. Wow

I'm starting to think developers shouldn't use a system that's newer than 10 years old

Or managers

Or marketers

@cypnk I am, of course, entirely in favor of computer "advances" stopping in 1983.
@cypnk 10 years old was quite powerful machines in terms of regular desktop
@cypnk i am not even kidding, if i remember correctly, it was lga775 and 2gb of ram on mid level machine, from noticeable missing features i can pick absence of aes cpu instructions maybe....
@cypnk but, do not get me wrong, today pc's allow to create miracles, but shitter made chromium, java, javascript, dotnet instead (
@cypnk yeah bloatware sucks, I wish I could find books on how to program without heavy ram or at least free ram. #lisp #scheme #nim are looking really good now.
@Nixfreak @cypnk Fennel is pretty nice.
@bamfic @cypnk fennel?

@Nixfreak @bamfic The programming language: https://fennel-lang.org/

It actually reminds me a bit of Scheme

the Fennel programming language

@cypnk @bamfic ok so I looked at it , basically from my opinion it鈥檚 Lua but using lisp syntax? So why not just lisp or scheme?
@Nixfreak @bamfic Can't speak to that directly, but I was considering it for ease of development. I'm using an ESP32 microcontroller for a DIY word processor project and I thought it would be interesting as a supported platform for it
@cypnk @bamfic ok so no cons,cdr,car? How do you do slices?
@Nixfreak @cypnk @bamfic even in scheme/racket pattern matching is usually better than calling car and cdr directly. declarative code reads a lot more nicely.
@technomancy @bamfic @cypnk very cool , looking at https://fennel-Lang.org and seeing differences between , guile,lisp.
the Fennel programming language

@cypnk @tsturm Very relatable. Totally agree.

That said though, reminds me of the following 45-minute lecture I was recently forwarded, from 2014 by Joe Armstrong, entitled, "The Mess We're In":

 https://youtu.be/lKXe3HUG2l4

#ProgramBloat #OutOfMemory #ReversingEntropy

"The Mess We're In" by Joe Armstrong

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@cypnk well we took a hypertext rendering program and turned it into an operating system, so that's gonna leave a mark.
Image:

Computer RAM then
<beefy doge>
I'm 4kb and can send humans to the moon

Computer RAM now
<cowering doge>
chrome tab scary