This place is dead. 😐

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Why do you say that? Because it's an echo chamber?

@AmitRamesan Do YOU think this is an echo chamber? Polite arguments do not indicate echo chambers. @Lawandemotions

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Well, you don't see the RW folks here yet, do you?

@VivekT @Lawandemotions

To be clear, I am fine with the RW folks not being here; it helps give space for sane & polite arguments.

That said, I don't think we should restrict this space to mere arguments ; we should think of building movements.

Is that happening?

@AmitRamesan Too early for that. I say that because there have been discussions but amongst few on a scattered basis. We need larger participation in discussions for a longer period. Lasting solutions need patience. @NSure @ranjona @Lawandemotions
@VivekT I agree. And also, let’s figure out how we can start a larger participation. This is an excellent space to discuss and organise.
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I suggest the first aim of this platform would be Anti-Fascist.
I know it gives a negative connotation but that is what is common between us right now.
@VivekT Yes, I agree. I think we also need to find a way to counter RW propoganda. The things we talk about/value, like constitutional rights, secularism, etc are too cerebral. There needs to be an emotional connect, I think. And also a way to tackle RW. When they come up with Kashmiri Pandits we can’t just tell them not to do whataboutery. We need to dictate the narrative, counter it in ways that will make people (not trolls) stop and think. No?
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@shinjini Absolutely! There is no point in getting into slanging matches. That is a trap. But like you say, we need to find the emotional connect too.
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@VivekT Yes. The RW connect is Hindu khatre mein hai. And Bharat mata is being protected from Pakistan and “Islamists” 🙄

What will counter that?

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@shinjini The Hindu khatrein mein hai phrase itself false because @NSure the "hindu"
here means a very small percentage of privileged upper castes. The majority of hindus are the so called lower caste who are always in khatra whether we were ruled by Rajahs or Sultans or the British. Hmm is that cerebral? @AmitRamesan @Lawandemotions

@VivekT for lower Hindu castes, they see Muslims also as the khatra I think. They buy that as the argument.

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@shinjini Yes they do. That's something that needs careful attention. How the fate of the have nots is connected irrespective of religion.
Their oppressors also are the same group irrespective of religion.
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