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The specific question i raised was were we liberals caught by surprise and shocked by his ascendancy or we were expecting it?
If we were shocked we should analyse where we went wrong. Were we complacent and condescending with the people who we now criticize and label as "bhakts"?
Anyway only navel gazing won't help. The idea is to find a solution and a voice.

@VivekT I personally was shocked and surprised. I always use to boast my India will not allow it. My friends from all religion are very secure and secular they will see through it and not support. All that has unfortunately been proven wrong. People I have known for half a century appear like strangers, nay zombies following some unresistable force. I can’t fathom what could I have done differently

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@tariquesani
So how are you dealing with it and what do you see is the way forward?

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@VivekT I don’t think I am dealing with it at all, other than just be stunned! At times doubting my own self...

What do you do when a childhood friend says your death could be an acceptable collateral damage? Or suddenly when my silence is the price asked for “inclusion”?

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@tariquesani
I really do not have an answer and I can't say "you should do this...or do that" because I am not facing the problems that you are. I too am looking for answers, which is why I put forth this topic for discussion
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@VivekT Thanks for listening anyway. I have been reading how the Germans dealt with it, unfortunately there are only a few stories of individual heroism. No real answers. Most are rather apologetic pieces of how the seemingly good people all around allowed the genocide to happen and said “that part we never supported”

De novo thinking is needed! The only hope is facist always fall!

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@tariquesani I can empathise. I’m Hindu married to a Muslim and I’m really scared. Husband has seen many riots - in fact, we got married soon after Godhra - but this is the first time he’s worried too.

Still....he’s hoping it will all somehow pass. I’ve been trying to convince him to leave the country, but he says he’s too old to move and start from scratch again.

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@shinjini
I can understand the desire to leave the country and I wouldn't blame anyone who did that. However that option is not available to all 200 million plus people. Also it is not just the Muslims who having these feelings, there are millions of non Muslims who are feeling depressed as well as oppressed in the present milieu.

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@VivekT That is true. Not everyone can leave. Also no citizen should be made to feel so threatened that they would want to leave their homeland.
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@shinjini this, so much this, although I want to leave too as mine in inter caste marriage

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@Deepsealioness I am surprised about that. One would have thought inter caste marriages are the norm nowadays. Hmm the joke is on me eh?
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@VivekT Maybe inter caste marriage is the norm. But not Hindu-Muslim marriage - that becomes “love jihad” 🙄.

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@shinjini Love jihad is something I could not understand. The theory has too many variables that cannot be controlled or predicted. It is a term coined by intellectually lazy and bigoted people.
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@VivekT I wish they were moronic enough and campaign - marry Muslim girls 😎

Oh wait a minute! That would be actually a very smart move...