VivekNov 16, 2019
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The specific question i raised was were we liberals caught by surprise and shocked by his ascendancy or we were expecting it?
If we were shocked we should analyse where we went wrong. Were we complacent and condescending with the people who we now criticize and label as "bhakts"?
Anyway only navel gazing won't help. The idea is to find a solution and a voice.
Show threadTarique Sani Nov 18, 2019

@VivekT I personally was shocked and surprised. I always use to boast my India will not allow it. My friends from all religion are very secure and secular they will see through it and not support. All that has unfortunately been proven wrong. People I have known for half a century appear like strangers, nay zombies following some unresistable force. I can’t fathom what could I have done differently

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Show threadVivekNov 18, 2019

@tariquesani
So how are you dealing with it and what do you see is the way forward?

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Show threadTarique Sani Nov 18, 2019

@VivekT I don’t think I am dealing with it at all, other than just be stunned! At times doubting my own self...

What do you do when a childhood friend says your death could be an acceptable collateral damage? Or suddenly when my silence is the price asked for “inclusion”?

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Show threadVivekNov 18, 2019
@tariquesani
I really do not have an answer and I can't say "you should do this...or do that" because I am not facing the problems that you are. I too am looking for answers, which is why I put forth this topic for discussion
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Show threadTarique Sani Nov 18, 2019

@VivekT Thanks for listening anyway. I have been reading how the Germans dealt with it, unfortunately there are only a few stories of individual heroism. No real answers. Most are rather apologetic pieces of how the seemingly good people all around allowed the genocide to happen and said “that part we never supported”

De novo thinking is needed! The only hope is facist always fall!

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Show threadShinjini | Modern GypsyNov 18, 2019

@tariquesani I can empathise. I’m Hindu married to a Muslim and I’m really scared. Husband has seen many riots - in fact, we got married soon after Godhra - but this is the first time he’s worried too.

Still....he’s hoping it will all somehow pass. I’ve been trying to convince him to leave the country, but he says he’s too old to move and start from scratch again.

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Show threadTarique Sani 

@shinjini Honestly I am more scared for my “Hindu” wife. Our religions exists only on paper, we celebrate all festivals because we sincere believe in the culture rather than religion. I can probably understand what your husband is thinking. I don’t want to leave either. This is still my country, my land my people. My brother served the country as a naval officer. Fought two wars. I simply can’t

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Show threadShinjini | Modern GypsyNov 18, 2019

@tariquesani It’s same with us. husband does daily Puja. He leads Diwali prayers. We celebrate Christmas & Eid & Diwali & Baisakhi. It’s about culture rather than religion.

When we were getting married, the DM who officiated our wedding made sure our marriage certificate was fast-tracked.

In today’s environment, we would probably have been turned over to VHP goons.

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