@strypey The new line is 'You didn't see the full report!', as if somehow seeing the full report should change the conclusion of it.
But there's been other deranged pieces written as well, like: https://t.co/AyWS1cAjpN
@strypey Agreed. I predict them running with the 'there's a smoking gun behind the retractions' till 2020, boosting Trump who can legitimately claim witch hunt.
But to me, the more raveling thing is just how quickly 'the Russians' have become #1 baddies again, (coming from people horrified by Trump's descriptions of Mexicans btw) & also how short sighted people are with regards to prosecuting WikiLeaks - that will be a disaster if it ever happens, for all journalists.
@bob the problem is there's a zerosum choice between a) an anonymous crowd and b) a set of identifiable humans who can be Assanged.
> Turning raw data into journalism requires a lot of work and that's not something which can easily be crowdsourced
I don' think WikiLeaks every really had the chance to try, because anyone who might have been sympathetic was too busy working on bootstrapping then-new projects like #Indymedia, #Wikipedia, #Slashdot, #CreativeCommons etc
@MatejLach
@bob
> the premise that showing the public The Truth, or some approximation of it, would change the policies of governments didn't turn out to be true.
I agree with this to some degree, and I noticed it with #Indymedia as well. The information and evidence has to be packaged in a Story, and someone has to tell that Story first (with WikiLeaks it ended up being Assange and the #Guardian), and a social movement(s) need to retell that Story as part of a call-to-action.
@MatejLach
Absolutely, however WL is still a remarkably successful project, considering all its detractors. Unlike the likes of the #Guardian, it never really had to retract what it published, which is all the more remarkable, because false leaks were used all the time to try to discredit them as unreliable.
As for the public needing a packaged Story however, that's sadly true, I mean part of the reason Maddow was #1 with Russiagate was because it was a good Story, even if false.