Why does everyone use #Flatpak? I just want to download the #Voca podcast app, and it seems I need to download 100s of MB πŸ˜•
...so I built it myself. Yay! ✌️
I meant #Vocal, guys. Sorry for the typo πŸ˜›
Yes, @badrihippo - as a not-unlimited-bandwith-man, I feel ya.

@neb yup.

Me, I'm not just not-unlimited-bandwidth, but also very-slow-download-speed πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

@badrihippo OK, double.trouble.
Here: 10GB a month through my SIM-card, if I manage to use more speed drops to "alleged" 68kbps (more like 6-30kbps).
That's when I run textbrowsers or update my linux for 24hrs.

@neb ah, well I get 1.4GB a day, then zero. But the Internet's so slow it's usually impossible to pass that limit.

Recently I've got 3G signal which is good when it works but (as goes without saying) not when it doesn't.

@badrihippo flatpak is gaining popularity for making certain things easier to install. It has become kind if a standard for the distribution of a lot of apps :)
I heard it will be the default way of packaging applications for the librem 5 smartphone, so everyone can expect more of it πŸ˜…

@vancha oh dear.

What I liked about tools like #apt was, if many apps had the same dependencies, those would be only installed once.

It's what makes Linux apps stay in the KB's while iPad apps go to 100s of MBs and more

@badrihippo that also seemed the cause of a lot of problems though. One app depends in version 1 of a certain library, and another on version 2. Installing both breaks something somewhere else in the system, so flatpaks solution was to bundle them with the software everytime. Also it provides a sandbox for added security.
When download size matters a lot building it from source is the superior option of course :p

@vancha isn't there a way to sandbox the dependencies tooβ€”in the sense of have both foo-4.0 and foo-3.1 in different directories, then have Flatpak direct the program to the appropriate one (a bit like npm)?

That way we'd need to download dependencies only once per version and still avoid clashes.

@badrihippo I like flatpak for discord. At least it can't scan all my running applications this way, I'm not comfortable with that.
@trawzified aha...that makes sense. But I'd still prefer *most* of my apps to spend space and bandwidth on duplicate dependencies (or have I misunderstood how Flatpak works?)