r҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖

"Google wants to kill the URL"

No

"People have a really hard time understanding URLs" is not a good enough reason to get rid of URLs

To this day, I refuse to use an AMP specific webpage as it breaks the open web. When I'm presented with an AMP link, I edit the URL to remove that component so I get the full page. "Safe" URLs will similarly cater to Google interests and I will not be using it

If other vendors go along with this, I'll write my own browser if I have to

https://www.wired.com/story/google-wants-to-kill-the-url/

Google Wants to Kill the URL

"Whatever we propose is going to be controversial. But it’s important we do something, because everyone is unsatisfied by URLs. They kind of suck."

Sep 5, 2018 at 9:56pmWeb
Show threadbhtooefrSep 5, 2018
@cypnk write an HTML 2.0 with RFCs browser, mandate that all URLs that it accesses are in the format: http(s)://(optional hostname.)domain.tld/~(rest of URL)
Show threadStephen T. StoneSep 5, 2018
@cypnk Any browser that does not let me use URLs is a browser that I will never use. And considering how Google is behind this scheme, any browser that goes along with this plan is a browser I will never use, recommend, or even talk about. The Alphabet Panopticon is large enough without letting Google sneak its tendrils into how we have fundamentally accessed sites for decades.
Show threadIan KellingSep 6, 2018
@cypnk Slight troll: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Open+web&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1 The page "Open web" does not exist. The web without AMP still has many problems, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_LibreJS
Open web - Search results - Wikipedia

Show threadDerek Powazek 🐐Sep 15, 2018
@cypnk yuuuup
Show threadrugk OLD ACCOUNTSep 15, 2018
@cypnk you may like https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/amp2html/
Redirect AMP to HTML – Holen Sie sich diese Erweiterung für 🦊 Firefox (de)

Laden Sie Redirect AMP to HTML für Firefox herunter. Automatically redirects AMP pages to the regular web page variant.

Show threadTim WSep 15, 2018
@cypnk AMP is an open standard. How does it break the open web?
Show threadr҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖Sep 15, 2018

@tw This is preferential for Google’s content analysis (in order for better search placement) which artificially constrains designs and page strictures, leaving presentation looking similar or largely the same

The “standard” is not the problem. Implementing it for the sake of a single entity is a big problem, no matter their market penetration

Office Open XML also became an ISO standard because Microsoft Office is widespread. AMP is the same for the web

Show threadJared WhiteSep 16, 2018
@cypnk I do the same thing! I totally can't stand the AMP versions — they always look super weird to me. Not like a real website at all.
Show threadAlexander BochmannSep 16, 2018
@cypnk Didn't they say for years that people don't need URLs since most use search anyway? (Which sadly is true - I've even given up to tell my partner to not put URLs into the damn search field by now.)
I assume that Google wants to get rid of URLs because that's one of the things they don't control yet.
Show threadr҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖Sep 16, 2018

@galaxis Yup. This is to control access to that last bit users can still change manually

People are people and sometimes old habits are hard to get rid of