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Mayel - ghost account@gabe the reactions to that tweet are something :D https://social.coop/media/KX6pdGPWvGm-pxlGw5w
@mayel Yeah, I'm really hoping this turns into some more decentralization-focused work on Git, as well as increased funding/support for the GitLab team to improve what they've got.
That said, the number of Microsoft apologists is astounding and incredibly disheartening.
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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@mayel @gabe @jjg that is likely the case.
I have been working in tech for near 30 years, and literally the only people I encounter who *genuinely* believe in FOSS as a wider social force for good (not simply yet another aspect of profit making business) seem to be found on Mastodon (and a great number of them on social.coop instance, although thats to be expected)
The fact that FLOSS ethics is not a part of the wider political progressive movement is so tragic to me.
Social and economic progress rely on changing the underlying systems in place, systems which are already rapidly changing... thanks to technology. But if that technology isn't free, libre, and open, how could we possibly have true social+economic progress come out of it?
Brandon Hall@jjg @mayel @gabe alas, quite a few people will just take the money.
in 1990s I drifted apart from all of my techie friends at highschool; they *all* stayed at uni and took lucrative jobs to supply equipment via companies like DEC, HP to MOD/Royal Navy or the AWE Aldermaston (who make *actual* atomic bombs). (in context I lived in Reading which is where these companies are/were based).
They weren't bad lads who *wanted* WW 3, they just felt "we've studied hard and should reap the rewards".
@gabe @jjg @mayel @vfrmedia I can imagine this being the case in the US, where colleges tend to relate educational materials heavily to how they'd be used in jobs, and jobs tend to be framed as things that one would only ever be done for money.
Given this, it'd take additional effort to come to consider the notion of applying CS concepts for reasons besides money making. #culture
this is also a problem in England (I don't know if its better in Scotland, different system there). Germany's employers are also obsessed with qualifications, a 1st degree won't do any more, you need a masters to get many tech jobs.
once that pressure and debt are put on young people (who also have given up a good bite of their youth to study), many of them will take whatever job pays (unless maybe they have other spiritual belief that encourages ethical thought)
@jjg @gabe @mayel @vfrmedia Eh not quite; entrepreneurs seem to be regard as weird exceptions to the rule, the rule that #education and #university plans for. (Speaking as a student that is attending a non-research university, a CSU rather than a UC, which is more the norm.)
Strypey@jjg @vfrmedia @mayel @gabe
> To me the difference between FOSS and proprietary software is as stark as that between a nuclear power plant and a nuclear bomb.
Maybe the difference between a renewable power plant and a nuclear power plant? Both ways of producing software / energy, but one or ethical and community-friendly and the other is toxic and wasteful?